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Post by mosigdude on Apr 27, 2015 20:48:21 GMT -8
Anyone using either in this caliber and are you able to reach the lands with either of these bullets? What is your Max OAL, your actual OAL and is your brass at min trim length (1.676") or less? I don't have this barrel yet and trying to acquire components. Any info is appreciated! |
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Post by mosigdude on Apr 27, 2015 21:21:29 GMT -8
Ok, more digging (or paying attention) and I just saw Greg's max OAL of 2.388, anything significantly different in anyone else's chambers? I'm looking for something uber-accurate (at or below sub 1/2 MOA) between 95 and 123 grains and a hunting-class bullet for medium (200 lb-ish deer, hogs) game at or under 400 yards and still able to mag feed using a stainless ASC magazine (2.300" ±). I'm open-minded to honest evaluation. Pretty please chime in with your experience!
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 28, 2015 6:12:51 GMT -8
You can't shoot the AMAX in a 6.5X6.8 at magazine length. You have to use the 123 Noslers. You aren't going to reach the lands with normal magazines. You can window the magazine and get there with some bullets. I'll have to pull my measurements.
The guns will do what you want jumping to the lands. The biggest failing of ANY 6.8 or variant is the brass is not good like LAPUA. The better accuracy cartridge will be based on the Grendel as LAPUA is the answer on primo brass .
Greg.
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Post by mosigdude on Apr 28, 2015 12:44:23 GMT -8
Any experience with the sierra 120 pro-hunter then? Still want something at mag length.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 28, 2015 15:02:42 GMT -8
Any experience with the sierra 120 pro-hunter then? Still want something at mag length. Maybe Ritch has some on that. Jumping from a 2.230 magazine, ASC, is getting us super accuracy. Greg |
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Post by mosigdude on Apr 28, 2015 20:30:27 GMT -8
I'm set up with the ASC stainless mags and have 2 that will let me load out to 2.310, the rest are just a touch shorter at 2.305. Is the Nosler Custom Competition a suitable hunting bullet for medium game or should I explore other options?
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Post by mosigdude on May 21, 2015 23:32:28 GMT -8
I'm set up with the ASC stainless mags and have 2 that will let me load out to 2.310, the rest are just a touch shorter at 2.305. Is the Nosler Custom Competition a suitable hunting bullet for medium game or should I explore other options? guess I'll do some r&d and figure it out for myself... I'll post after the barrel arrives! |
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 22, 2015 6:08:20 GMT -8
I'm set up with the ASC stainless mags and have 2 that will let me load out to 2.310, the rest are just a touch shorter at 2.305. Is the Nosler Custom Competition a suitable hunting bullet for medium game or should I explore other options? guess I'll do some r&d and figure it out for myself... I'll post after the barrel arrives! The Nosler is a target bullet. I don't know of anyone that has shot any game with it. I suspect it will be better than the AMAX. I would hit a genuine hunting board for that answer. My actual real world choice would be a 120 Pro Hunter. Greg |
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Post by mosigdude on May 22, 2015 8:03:29 GMT -8
I'll give those a try for accuracy then! I had ordered a box of those for that purpose when I was sourcing other components as well. Not surprisingly with all the other options out there, I can't find any reference to anyone pursuing game with the 123CC.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 22, 2015 8:28:02 GMT -8
You might look at the Grendel board since they can shoot it to.
Greg
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Post by radioflyer777 on Nov 2, 2015 19:18:21 GMT -8
You can't shoot the AMAX in a 6.5X6.8 at magazine length. You have to use the 123 Noslers. You aren't going to reach the lands with normal magazines. You can window the magazine and get there with some bullets. I'll have to pull my measurements. The guns will do what you want jumping to the lands. The biggest failing of ANY 6.8 or variant is the brass is not good like LAPUA. The better accuracy cartridge will be based on the Grendel as LAPUA is the answer on primo brass . Greg. Ah, that's good to know. I have been considering either a 6x6.8 or a 6.5x6.8 (or possibly243 LBC) and trying to figure out what the options are for loading the heavier, higher BC bullets in the 90-123 grain range. I have been reading through the forums trying to glean the load data, but still not sure what the best options are. Do you know if there is a chart/list for load data and acceptable bullets for the 6 SPC and the 6.5 SPC? One of the posts that I read said to start with 6.5 Gren data and work up so I assumed that the 123 A-max was GTG... Please pardon my ignorance, as I am fairly new to the wildcatting world. My current line of thought is favoring the 6.8 series over the 243 LBC since the brass options seem more affordable and practical. |
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Post by gaberelli on Nov 2, 2015 19:53:59 GMT -8
Neither the 6x6.8 nor 6.5x6.8 will easily allow you to shoot the top end weight bullets (100+ in the 6mm and 120+ in the 6.5mm). The case is just too long and may require windowing the mag. What you will get in both is great velocity and performance from the 87-95 and 100-108 grain pills respectively.
If you HAVE to have max weight, go LBC. If increased velocity per bullet weight and plentiful "cheap" brass is a priority, use the 6.8 case. Both will perform well. I lean towards the 6.8 variants.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Nov 2, 2015 20:25:40 GMT -8
I need more information on the use you are after. Paper or warm targets? Up close at 100 yards or ten times that?
Greg
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Post by radioflyer777 on Nov 3, 2015 17:40:44 GMT -8
I need more information on the use you are after. Paper or warm targets? Up close at 100 yards or ten times that? Greg Greg, My goal is going long and delivering enough energy for warm targets from an AR-15. Basically, I'd like to squeeze maximum long range performance from the 6.8 case... Would be interested in load data on any proven performers, and I would like to run some numbers through a ballistics calculator. However, I wasn't sure on the limitations for bullet length. I would also do some shooting at the 100 yard line, since that is tops for the public ranges in my local area. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 17:59:32 GMT -8
I need more information on the use you are after. Paper or warm targets? Up close at 100 yards or ten times that? Greg Greg, My goal is going long and delivering enough energy for warm targets from an AR-15. Basically, I'd like to squeeze maximum long range performance from the 6.8 case... Would be interested in load data on any proven performers, and I would like to run some numbers through a ballistics calculator. However, I wasn't sure on the limitations for bullet length. I would also do some shooting at the 100 yard line, since that is tops for the public ranges in my local area. Unless you are dead set on a 6.5, check out what the 6mm version will do. Long range kills with the 6x6.8 are easy with the right components. |
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