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Post by pnwshooter on Jan 31, 2016 16:45:05 GMT -8
I picked up a bhw 20" 264 barrel during the sale so now the building begins. It's a rifle length gas barrel and I am wondering if I really need and adjustable gas block or not? From what I've seen is that an adjustable gb is only going to cost another 30-50 over non adjustable. My only worry is the adjustable gb not holding its setting. The gun will be used mainly hot hunting and probably some long range shooting. My build plan goes something like this. Ace skeleton stock, Anderson lower with a velocity 3lb trigger. Aero m4e1 upper and 15" m-lok hg, Burris pepr qd with a primary arms 4-14 mildot scope, bhw 20" with some sort brake on it. Not sure on the bcg yet either probably go with a nib type. The idea is to use quality parts that don't break the bank and still have it be reliable.
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Post by 264builder on Jan 31, 2016 17:17:25 GMT -8
Good luck not breaking the bank with the 264,all of it is expensive. I am building one now, waiting on the barrel to be finished. I am building side charging upper, everyone I have talked to on the forums and in person says to use it for side charging. However, I don't see it being a problem to use with any type of upper, honestly it can be adjusted to not hit so hard when the bolt opens all the way up. As far as them keeping the setting, it shouldn't be much of a problem from what I have read. I have never had one myself, but guys I have talked to at local gun shops talk really high of them. The problem you will have is when you run different brands of ammo through it, you will have to readjust it. Some ammo is loaded different than others. The ones I have seen are adjusted by a set screw.
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Post by pnwshooter on Jan 31, 2016 17:48:16 GMT -8
Maybe it's one of those things that's better to have and not really need than needing it when you don't have it? Hahaha What's the reason for side charging? Obviously you do t have to deal with a charging handle and could stay on target better while running the bolt if needed but is it really a necessity? I'm pretty new to the ar platform and have put together 2 rifle kits in 556 so I understand how they work but this is my first ground up build. As far as cost wise ya it's not cheap but I feel it's cheaper than an ar10 platform
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Post by devildogandboy on Jan 31, 2016 17:53:04 GMT -8
i bought my 264lbc last summer and put an BTE gas adjustable gas block on it. they work really well and don't cost all that much, a few dollars more than the standard gas block. also BTE is one of the vendors on this site. here's their link, check them out. www.bte-usa.com/#!bte-micro-gas-blocks/c1du Bruce
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Post by gpsman007 on Feb 1, 2016 4:23:35 GMT -8
I put one on mine. It works flawless. I did put some blue lock tight on the adjustment screw cause it seemed like it could easily move. With that said it has not moved with the lock tight. Great option. Great price
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 4:46:04 GMT -8
I put one on mine. It works flawless. I did put some blue lock tight on the adjustment screw cause it seemed like it could easily move. With that said it has not moved with the lock tight. Great option. Great price Don't use Loctite!!!! A little Hi temp RTV silicone will keep the adjustment screw from moving on its own. It will also make it easy to adjust the next time, if you need to.
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Post by gpsman007 on Feb 1, 2016 5:21:35 GMT -8
thanks
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 1, 2016 6:51:02 GMT -8
I put one on mine. It works flawless. I did put some blue lock tight on the adjustment screw cause it seemed like it could easily move. With that said it has not moved with the lock tight. Great option. Great price OMG!!!!!! Not only know but certainly NO!!! RTV is the route. I have a tube of water pump and thermostat gasket material from AutoZone. I learned PDQ about that after talking to JB on my first adjustable. Now it is BTE all the time. Greg
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Post by pnwshooter on Feb 1, 2016 10:25:04 GMT -8
Are you talking about the permatex aviation type gasket sealer?
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 1, 2016 12:22:01 GMT -8
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Post by devildogandboy on Feb 1, 2016 12:41:06 GMT -8
well thanks for telling us now(LOL). i did the same thing with blue locktite thinking the screw felt like it could come loose. oh well, for now it's running good, hopefully won't have to make any adjustments. is there any reason not to use the locktite? Bruce
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 1, 2016 12:53:02 GMT -8
well thanks for telling us now(LOL). i did the same thing with blue locktite thinking the screw felt like it could come loose. oh well, for now it's running good, hopefully won't have to make any adjustments. is there any reason not to use the locktite? Bruce If you will peruse back through other threads you will see we have always specified RTV material for the adjustable blocks. I lost the screw out of my first JP adjustable and gave them a call. They razzed me big time because their directions specifically address the use of RTV being MANDATORY vs nothing at all. The RTV will stay pliable and you can make adjustments without issue once the heat starts cooking on the Loctite. Heads up. After a range session I recommend turning the screw in and out on ALL adjustable blocks. Contrary to popular BS belief the dollar front adjustable will lock up if you don't regardless what some try to peddle they are not the be all to end all. I look upon them as product Fan Boys that think if you spend $90.00 on something it has to be far better than a $45.00 unit. Greg
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Post by devildogandboy on Feb 1, 2016 13:19:34 GMT -8
now i may have read that before about the RTV sealer but with the happenings of life and age creeping up on me i tend to forget one day to the next, hence i make a list of things to buy for the day or the next week so i don't forget. i didn't have this problem just a few short years ago.(lol)
i am by no means a top dollar shopper, i shop for value and research the items i buy. gotta save the pennies where i can so i can get other items later. i find the BTE gas block to be a great value compard to the other more expensive items out there. i don't see what makes them more expensive other than people wanting to pay for the name, like Levis or Wrangler, i buy Wrangler because it is a better bargain.
thanks for the advice on the RTV, i just put it on my list! Bruce
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 1, 2016 13:26:22 GMT -8
now i may have read that before about the RTV sealer but with the happenings of life and age creeping up on me i tend to forget one day to the next, hence i make a list of things to buy for the day or the next week so i don't forget. i didn't have this problem just a few short years ago.(lol) i am by no means a top dollar shopper, i shop for value and research the items i buy. gotta save the pennies where i can so i can get other items later. i find the BTE gas block to be a great value compard to the other more expensive items out there. i don't see what makes them more expensive other than people wanting to pay for the name, like Levis or Wrangler, i buy Wrangler because it is a better bargain. thanks for the advice on the RTV, i just put it on my list! Bruce I suspect you are younger than I am.. LOL I had a list once, I think, maybe? Ritch uses a red color RTV and I use a blue. I think mine is more Republican. I buy my jeans at COSTCO. Greg
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Post by pnwshooter on Feb 1, 2016 16:44:15 GMT -8
Is it possible to stake the set screw or use a slightly longer one and then stake it? Please forgive my newb but I'm wanting a set it and forget it type setup. With that said what are the downfalls of running a non adjustable gb on my 20" rifle gassed barrel with the rifle buffer? This being a hunting rifle there is zero room for error imo when it comes to putting meat on the ground. For me it's about showing the animal respect and make a quick clean kill so I don't want my gun doing something weird because a screw came loose.
Also thank you so far for everyone's input and wisdom on this!!!
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