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Post by zr600 on Jul 13, 2016 7:32:14 GMT -8
Ok is it worth it to build off an axis chassis. I am going to use it for out 1000-1200 yards on targets and prairie dogs what caliper would you recomend? I am going to put it in a mdt chassis. I do t want a barrel burner because it will get shot a lot. I'm thinking I would send the action to Sharp Shooters Supply to have the action and bolt tried and timed and fluted. Any help or advice would be good. This is my first time doing a custom built bolt action. If it makes a difference it will be shot suppressed through a 30 cal surpressor. Also I do reload.
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Post by cosh on Jul 13, 2016 10:32:27 GMT -8
Hi ZR. Read up on savage shooters forum. There are good reports of the Axis builds. Axis II has the accu trigger. Options for stocks are out there more showing up as demand goes up. I don't know if they have an MDT chassis for it yet, research before going down that path. I saw they have SA and LA Savage 10 and 110 respectively. Shane
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Post by zr600 on Jul 13, 2016 10:41:14 GMT -8
They do have a axis chassis but it's only good for a short action.
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Post by cosh on Jul 13, 2016 11:05:00 GMT -8
I would be fine using the short action Axis for a varmint build. Axis and Stevens/Savage use the same barrel thread on std cals.
The new Trophy Hunter 11 is about 1/2 Axis anyway. I got one in 223 and it uses the same bolt and magazine (plastic). That surprised me because it was $300 more than an Axis.. Lol. Oh well.
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Post by gpsman007 on Jul 15, 2016 3:18:23 GMT -8
1000 to 1200 yds... Factory ammo... Gonna be tough to see PD's at that range. 7mm rem mag fer that far. Or 338 lapua mag..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 5:25:08 GMT -8
There are quite a few cartridges that will do what your asking about, and on a short action. You can go from .22 to 7mm all of which will do 1200 yards.
You will just have to decide which caliber you would like to work with.
The only limiting factor will be your range finder. It doesn't mater if you are shooting one of the big boomers or a smaller intermediate round, if you don't know what to dial your scope, you will most likely miss.
Here is a short list of short action cartridges that will get you to 1000 plus, with enough to kill a prairie dog.
20-250
22-243
243LBC
6mm Creedmoor
243 WIN
6.5 Creedmoor
260 Rem
6.5x284
7-08 ( not my first choice but it will get you there on a good day )
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Post by zr600 on Jul 15, 2016 12:04:54 GMT -8
Ok I currently have a 22-250 how is the barrel life on the 20-250 I have a bunch of brass too. Also how is the barrel life on the 6x284, and how is the recoil on this I want to be able to shoot it all day I will be surpressed so that should help.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Jul 18, 2016 9:42:59 GMT -8
Ok I currently have a 22-250 how is the barrel life on the 20-250 I have a bunch of brass too. Also how is the barrel life on the 6x284, and how is the recoil on this I want to be able to shoot it all day I will be surpressed so that should help. Barrel life is based on how aggressive you are. 20-250 maybe 1000 with 700 being a god number. A 6X284 is hard to tell.(not a shot all day gun) maybe 700 or so. If I were going to much set and colony shooting on either of those the day I got may barrel I would order up a new one. 1000 rounds doesn't take long if the little guys are hot and heavy. My matches take 40 rounds at 1000 so that means I'm good for about 25 matches if I'm going for a 5" X-Ring. About a years worth of shooting if you are the least bit serious. If it's just going and poking steel it would last a bit longer but dual duty is going to get barrel intensive if you step up/down form the little Grendel case in a 243. I can't tell what you are after. PD shooing and targets at 100- 1200 or PD's closer and then targets out yonder. Once you step away above a 22-250 sized case your full daily usage comfort will go down if not from recoil just the muuzzle blast alone will come into play big time. I don't even like shooting my 243 more than about 100 rounds/day and recoil is not an issue with it.In handguns we found we couldn't practice with a 38 Super near as long as a 45 ACP. It takes nothing to punch paper at 1000 yards for energy. Killng PD's is pretty low on the energy requirement but once I step past about 600 on them I always want a rabbits foot in my pocket. It's not the killing it's the hitting and a 25 yard range mistake is close to a 100% miss level at those distances. Just my opinion here but slightly educated in my thoughts IMHO. Greg |
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Post by zr600 on Jul 18, 2016 11:20:31 GMT -8
Targets out to as far as I can shoot and see them and prairie dogs out to 600-800 yards I know it doesn't take much energy but I know you need the bigger caliper to help reach out there. But want to be able to shoot it all day. Maybe I should just do a 243lbc.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Jul 18, 2016 12:03:13 GMT -8
Targets out to as far as I can shoot and see them and prairie dogs out to 600-800 yards I know it doesn't take much energy but I know you need the bigger caliper to help reach out there. But want to be able to shoot it all day. Maybe I should just do a 243lbc. I would. . Greg |
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Post by zr600 on Aug 1, 2016 18:16:04 GMT -8
Ok now glshooter what savage action have you built off of? I want this to be a tac driver so I'm going to have the action trued and blueprinted. Is it worth it to do this to a axis action or should I go to a Remington or savage 110 action?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 2:51:26 GMT -8
Ok now glshooter what savage action have you built off of? I want this to be a tac driver so I'm going to have the action trued and blueprinted. Is it worth it to do this to a axis action or should I go to a Remington or savage 110 action? You can have the action trued if you would like to, but it won't make enough difference to offset the cost. I have an action that has been done and it doesn't shoot any better than the non trued actions. If you want to spend some money, buy a Savage target action. They come in about every conceivable configuration. They have a good trigger, right out of the box and an adjustable firing pin. If you decide to go the Remington route, you will need to have it trued up. The reason for this is the floating bolt head in the Savage. The Remington bolt is a solid one piece setup. |
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Post by lerms on Aug 9, 2016 16:37:00 GMT -8
Ok now glshooter what savage action have you built off of? I want this to be a tac driver so I'm going to have the action trued and blueprinted. Is it worth it to do this to a axis action or should I go to a Remington or savage 110 action? You can have the action trued if you would like to, but it won't make enough difference to offset the cost. I have an action that has been done and it doesn't shoot any better than the non trued actions. If you want to spend some money, buy a Savage target action. They come in about every conceivable configuration. They have a good trigger, right out of the box and an adjustable firing pin. If you decide to go the Remington route, you will need to have it trued up. The reason for this is the floating bolt head in the Savage. The Remington bolt is a solid one piece setup. Just wanted to ask with blackholes new Remington barrels does the action still need to be trued? |
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Aug 9, 2016 16:52:57 GMT -8
Most I have heard of are not. The nice thing is you'll know pretty quickly. It comes down to how good you want it. That chassis 308 I wrote about was not squared but the action was not a Remington and costs about twice as much. ...lol
Greg
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