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Post by guncollector on Jun 23, 2011 18:51:34 GMT -8
What lubrication are you gentlemen using on your AR rifles? I read somewhere that most people are using the wrong lubrication on the bolt lugs. The article stated the bolt of an AR open under high pressure and requires an extreme pressure lubrication that will stay in place. Are there other areas that need extreme pressure lube? What lube is best for areas that do not require the extreme pressure lube. I apologize if this has been posted before. I'm new and couldn't find a search button.
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Post by curlymaple42 on Jun 24, 2011 7:59:34 GMT -8
I use CorrosionX on everything. Never had a problem. I liked it so much, I became a dealer!! If you need any, let me know. I have a case of it left.
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Post by everrest on Jun 24, 2011 8:05:41 GMT -8
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Post by guncollector on Jun 24, 2011 13:47:05 GMT -8
Curlymaple and Everrest, thank you both for your replies. The article I read was supposedly written by a gunsmith that does lots of work on ARs. He stated he has seen lots of premature bolt wear and bolt failures from use of improper lubricant on the rear of the bolt lugs. I have looked high and low and have been unable to find the article again. I believe he recommended some kind of bicycle chain lube because it stayed in place under pressure. I just wanted to see what the very knowledgeable people on this forum recommended. Perhaps Master Yoda could chime in if he sees this post. Again, thank you both for your replies.
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Post by curlymaple42 on Jun 24, 2011 17:32:26 GMT -8
I always used a dry lube on my bike chain as it didn't gum up with mud and crap when I was racing. Not sure though how that would hold up with the heat though. The CorrosionX sort of "seasons" into the metal. Works good under heat and pressure. Makes cleaning the barrel a breeze too.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Jun 24, 2011 18:39:48 GMT -8
I use FP10 on my AR's across the board. I have found it usable in all my firearms. The only "grease " I use is Tetra Gun Lube on the lugs of my bolt guns and my M1A rifles.
I have also used Break Free extensively in the AR and found it perfectly adequate. So far no bolt issues that I can see.
Greg
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Post by will on Jun 29, 2011 11:33:22 GMT -8
I use Gunzilla www.topduckproducts.com/ on everything now days. A great CLP, doesn't gum up, has no problems running real hot and works great on my AR and pistols. I even use it to soak my suppressors in to clean out the carbon & crap. Best of all, it has almost no smell, so I can clean a pistol in the kitchen and not drive everyone from the house. Prior to switching to Gunzilla a year or so ago, I used to use Gun Butter www.gunbutter.com after hosing everything down with a carb cleaner. Gun Butter is a synthetic oil that also ran really well hot or cold, AR or pistol. I switched because I wanted to get away from the caustic nature of carb cleaner, however Gun Butter is still an excellent product (if a bit expensive).
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Post by letaz77 on Jun 29, 2011 12:31:09 GMT -8
+ 1 on the CLP. We used that back when I was in the Marine Corps and I have kept using it ever since. For year I have not had any issues of excesive wear of any kind....just my 2 cents.
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Post by joesun on Jun 29, 2011 12:57:06 GMT -8
Another vote for FP-10 here but I also use breakfree CLP.
I've seen quite a few posts from people who know more than me that are using some newish water based lube instead of oil based. For the life of me I can't remember what it is right now.. it's not Frog Lube.
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Post by floatpilot on Jul 2, 2011 20:07:40 GMT -8
Cold Weather Firearms Lube Test. Negative 10 to Negative 65 F.
Shooter Choice FP-10 Works very well in ARs and bolt guns. Good to-50
Terta Gun Lube Thicker, works well on crew full auto weapons
G96 Gun treatment Comes as a spray, very light, bolts guns to -65
Penn Synthetic Reel Oil P/N 92340 Very Fluid, Extremely slippery good to -65 , Runs in warm temps, can get into primers.
Marvel Mystery Oil Very fluid, Very slippery good to -40 Burns away on full auto.
3 in 1 Oil Fairly fluid, somewhat slippery gums at -20
LPS-2 Fairly Fluid, somewhat slippery gums at -20
Klean-Bore Formula 3 Some separation, fairly fluid, somewhat slippery
Tri-Flow Separated, does not adhere or film on metal
Break-Free Separated, somewhat tacky and semi syrup like
Mil-Tech Thick, somewhat tacky, syrup like
Outers Gun Oil Very thick syrup. Tacky
Mil spec MIL4-46000c Lube Oil Separated, some was in thick jell state.
Rem Oil Thick jell, tacky
Boe Shield T-9 Thick Jell, tacky
Corrosion X HD Thick jell, tacky
Ballistol very thick jell. Separation
Exxon Elite 20-50 Syn Av Oil Very Thick, glue like
AeroShell 15-50 Semi Syn Av Oil Very thick, glue like
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Post by curlymaple42 on Jul 3, 2011 13:16:32 GMT -8
I don't use the CorrosionX HD actually on guns, so I wonder what the standard CX for Guns would do at cold temps. Never have had a problem down to -20F up north.
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Post by greentick on Jul 5, 2011 6:08:34 GMT -8
I have also started using gunzilla CLP and their copper solvent. Indeed the odor is not an issue. I typically used Breakfree previously.
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Post by will on Jul 7, 2011 5:56:13 GMT -8
I have also started using gunzilla CLP and their copper solvent. Indeed the odor is not an issue. I typically used Breakfree previously. Yup, totally worth it. I haven't found anything that Gunzilla can't clean, so it's taken over as the CLP of preference. It also doesn't eat skin like brake/carb cleaner does...
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Post by guncollector on Jul 7, 2011 15:32:20 GMT -8
Cold Weather Firearms Lube Test. Negative 10 to Negative 65 F.Shooter Choice FP-10 Works very well in ARs and bolt guns. Good to-50 Terta Gun Lube Thicker, works well on crew full auto weapons G96 Gun treatment Comes as a spray, very light, bolts guns to -65 Penn Synthetic Reel Oil P/N 92340 Very Fluid, Extremely slippery good to -65 , Runs in warm temps, can get into primers. Marvel Mystery Oil Very fluid, Very slippery good to -40 Burns away on full auto. 3 in 1 Oil Fairly fluid, somewhat slippery gums at -20 LPS-2 Fairly Fluid, somewhat slippery gums at -20 Klean-Bore Formula 3 Some separation, fairly fluid, somewhat slippery Tri-Flow Separated, does not adhere or film on metal Break-Free Separated, somewhat tacky and semi syrup like Mil-Tech Thick, somewhat tacky, syrup like Outers Gun Oil Very thick syrup. Tacky Mil spec MIL4-46000c Lube Oil Separated, some was in thick jell state. Rem Oil Thick jell, tacky Boe Shield T-9 Thick Jell, tacky Corrosion X HD Thick jell, tacky Ballistol very thick jell. Separation Exxon Elite 20-50 Syn Av Oil Very Thick, glue like AeroShell 15-50 Semi Syn Av Oil Very thick, glue like Float pilot, Thanks for the good response. Any opinion about which lube would be best for the back of the bolt lugs? I'm looking for something that will stay in place under extreme pressure and still provide lubrication.
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Post by guncollector on Jul 7, 2011 15:38:37 GMT -8
I use CorrosionX on everything. Never had a problem. I liked it so much, I became a dealer!! If you need any, let me know. I have a case of it left. Curlymaple, I looked at the manufacturer's information on CorrosionX. Looks good but then again it is the manufacturer blowing it's own horn. You said it worked very good. You used it on the back of the bolt lugs? You never noticed any wear? Thanks for your response. BTW weren't you also on the 65Grendel forum before it went down. I could be wrong but I thought I saw you there. Did you use CorrosionX on your 6.5 Grendel bolt?
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