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Post by oraaron on Feb 22, 2012 16:57:03 GMT -8
In addition to what was mentioned in checking you gas rings and the carrier key, have you compared both carriers? Curious as to if one of them is a lighter semi version and the other was a full circle heavy, such as Y/M.
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Post by melbakid on Apr 21, 2012 20:25:38 GMT -8
1shotzero: Your reply said: I use the lee case length gauge with the trimmer and have it adapted to run in the RCBS powered station.
What are you doing to adapt the Lee case trimmer to the RCBS powered station? I would like to do this also! I use the Lee case trimmers and I have the RCBS powered station. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Post by cb4017 on Oct 4, 2012 15:13:25 GMT -8
I just bought a set of these RCBS dies and thought I would add my experience. I like them. I cleaned the dies then started loading. No problems. The dies are well made and polished. I expected no less from RCBS and for $37 + shipping they were hard to resist.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Oct 4, 2012 15:17:40 GMT -8
I just bought a set of these RCBS dies and thought I would add my experience. I like them. I cleaned the dies then started loading. No problems. The dies are well made and polished. I expected no less from RCBS and for $37 + shipping they were hard to resist. Glad to hear that they loaded well for you. Keep us posted on how the rounds work and if you see any longevity issues with the brass as the SB dies do their thing. I've never found a need for them but as long as everyone is getting bug holes getting there is what counts no matter what the journey was. Greg
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Post by cb4017 on Oct 4, 2012 18:44:44 GMT -8
Hopefully I will be able to assemble the upper and get some shooting done this weekend. I was initially a little concerned about getting SB dies but they don't seem to work the brass any more than my standard RCBS FL dies in .223.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Oct 4, 2012 21:05:20 GMT -8
Hopefully I will be able to assemble the upper and get some shooting done this weekend. I was initially a little concerned about getting SB dies but they don't seem to work the brass any more than my standard RCBS FL dies in .223. Only the shooting will tell. Remember to monitor the case length. That brass goes somewhere when you start massaging it. Greg
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Post by cb4017 on Oct 11, 2012 9:40:48 GMT -8
Got a control set of RP brass I've loaded and fired x5 so far with these dies. They are still going strong. They tend to grow a few thousandths each firing/sizing cycle but I've never seen a bottle neck rifle case that didn't.
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Post by captmike on Sept 15, 2013 22:25:02 GMT -8
Howdy all, Followed this post and found it enlightening. I loaded some trial runs of 80gr Hornady GMX with IMR 3031. Starting at 23gr and working up to 24.5gr. This is not the best powder to use because it is extruded and doesn't seem to consistently meter on my Dillon RL550. Used Redding dies and here my problems seem to get worse. The seating die does not seem to be able to seat the round deep enough to fit in a mag. 2.276 inches was the COAL.. After the 8th single shot a round jammed in the chamber. Seems the neck diameter was too large? (they measure between .269 and .273 which seems in spec) It never fully chambered.. had to beat it out with a dowel and a hammer.. Putting it back together, the only thing that didn't go right was the firing pin retainer, could this be the source of the problem? rifle is home built, barrel is 18" 1x9.. It had functioned flawlessly with corbon factory ammo, but less than 5 rounds had been run through it.. The rifle is back together and manually cycles fine. If it was the firing pin retainer dragging in the upper, it still leaves the redding seating die not seating the bullets deep enough.. ideas? I also loaded 70grain Nosler Balistic tips and the COAL was 2.255" Sierra 85gr Game kings loaded fine. Should I give up on the ballistic tips? New RCBS 28903 AR dies are in the mail...
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Sept 16, 2013 15:44:45 GMT -8
Howdy all, Followed this post and found it enlightening. I loaded some trial runs of 80gr Hornady GMX with IMR 3031. Starting at 23gr and working up to 24.5gr. This is not the best powder to use because it is extruded and doesn't seem to consistently meter on my Dillon RL550. Used Redding dies and here my problems seem to get worse. The seating die does not seem to be able to seat the round deep enough to fit in a mag. 2.276 inches was the COAL.. After the 8th single shot a round jammed in the chamber. Seems the neck diameter was too large? (they measure between .269 and .273 which seems in spec) It never fully chambered.. had to beat it out with a dowel and a hammer.. Putting it back together, the only thing that didn't go right was the firing pin retainer, could this be the source of the problem? rifle is home built, barrel is 18" 1x9.. It had functioned flawlessly with corbon factory ammo, but less than 5 rounds had been run through it.. The rifle is back together and manually cycles fine. If it was the firing pin retainer dragging in the upper, it still leaves the redding seating die not seating the bullets deep enough.. ideas? I also loaded 70grain Nosler Balistic tips and the COAL was 2.255" Sierra 85gr Game kings loaded fine. Should I give up on the ballistic tips? New RCBS 28903 AR dies are in the mail... Those seem a little thick but not by much. It could be you need a different seater punch. I don't have any ofthe GMX but if it is down all the way and still too long it is time to call the good folks at Redding. Why give up on the Ballistic Tips? You didn't say what they were doing. The FRP is hard to put in at times. Had it backed out? Greg
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 15:51:12 GMT -8
Howdy all, Followed this post and found it enlightening. I loaded some trial runs of 80gr Hornady GMX with IMR 3031. Starting at 23gr and working up to 24.5gr. This is not the best powder to use because it is extruded and doesn't seem to consistently meter on my Dillon RL550. Used Redding dies and here my problems seem to get worse. The seating die does not seem to be able to seat the round deep enough to fit in a mag. 2.276 inches was the COAL.. After the 8th single shot a round jammed in the chamber. Seems the neck diameter was too large? (they measure between .269 and .273 which seems in spec) It never fully chambered.. had to beat it out with a dowel and a hammer.. Putting it back together, the only thing that didn't go right was the firing pin retainer, could this be the source of the problem? rifle is home built, barrel is 18" 1x9.. It had functioned flawlessly with corbon factory ammo, but less than 5 rounds had been run through it.. The rifle is back together and manually cycles fine. If it was the firing pin retainer dragging in the upper, it still leaves the redding seating die not seating the bullets deep enough.. ideas? I also loaded 70grain Nosler Balistic tips and the COAL was 2.255" Sierra 85gr Game kings loaded fine. Should I give up on the ballistic tips? New RCBS 28903 AR dies are in the mail... Those seem a little thick but not by much. It could be you need a different seater punch. I don't have any ofthe GMX but if it is down all the way and still too long it is time to call the good folks at Redding. Why give up on the Ballistic Tips? You didn't say what they were doing. The FRP is hard to put in at times. Had it backed out? Greg Call Redding. Tell them what your problems are. They will send you a .22 cal seating stem.
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Post by captmike on Sept 17, 2013 6:29:33 GMT -8
I believe the FRP had backed out, the gun was really dry. It would not go back in, and there was no obstruction so that leaves a bent pin. Never had that happen before.. So it may have been more than one thing going on there.. A buddy suggested a dab of JB weld up the die and then push the cartridge up it making it custom formed to the bullet. That may work. I have RCBS dies that should arrive today or tomorrow. We'll try that first. Can't give up on the ballistic tips, have a bunch of 58 grain V-Max coming. I am changing powder to IMR 8208 XBR. It is extruded, but much smaller.. So it looks like a day of pulling bullets lies before me.. This should meter much better...
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Sept 17, 2013 9:43:44 GMT -8
I believe the FRP had backed out, the gun was really dry. It would not go back in, and there was no obstruction so that leaves a bent pin. Never had that happen before.. So it may have been more than one thing going on there.. A buddy suggested a dab of JB weld up the die and then push the cartridge up it making it custom formed to the bullet. That may work. I have RCBS dies that should arrive today or tomorrow. We'll try that first. Can't give up on the ballistic tips, have a bunch of 58 grain V-Max coming. I am changing powder to IMR 8208 XBR. It is extruded, but much smaller.. So it looks like a day of pulling bullets lies before me.. This should meter much better... Not sure that you will gain enough push with the JB but it is a cheap try. I have used the regular Hornady 6X45 dies for years and never had a problem but then I can always swap in other parts. The Reddings I use also are usable but I tend toward the more standard type like the 87 Hornady HPBT pills. Those 58's will shoot like a house on fire for you. Greg
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Post by pasttense on Sept 17, 2013 19:28:40 GMT -8
I do not normally set up my 650 for load development or testing. in the past I have noted several things. Extruded (stick ) propellents are usually what shoots best. however looking down into a 6 mm LBC case and seeing all the grains of RL15 half way down the neck and pointed towards the center of the case blocking the other half of the powder charge from entering; caused me tokeepit in a bag with a dryer sheet for a while. If they had not just made bolt action barrels available this would be the chambering of my next gun.
Paul
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Sept 17, 2013 20:26:59 GMT -8
I do not normally set up my 650 for load development or testing. in the past I have noted several things. Extruded (stick ) propellents are usually what shoots best. however looking down into a 6 mm LBC case and seeing all the grains of RL15 half way down the neck and pointed towards the center of the case blocking the other half of the powder charge from entering; caused me tokeepit in a bag with a dryer sheet for a while. If they had not just made bolt action barrels available this would be the chambering of my next gun. Paul That is one reason to have a single stage or a stand alone powder measure. Ii use a bunch of RL15 but drop it with a PACT measure. Greg
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Post by captmike on Sept 19, 2013 22:55:56 GMT -8
Switched powder to IMR 8208 XBR, switched to an RCBS seating die.. Might have something tomorrow.. I believe now I was all wrong, yes again, about my firing pin retainer, I was WAY over crimping, and mashing my cases down where the bulge wouldn't fit n the chamber.. If this keeps up I will be the most humble shooter, not to mention the laughing stock of the sport. Switching from Lake City Brass to 223 Federal with the idea that the 223 may have thinner walls and slightly higher case capacity.. Max charge of 27 grains of powder was compressing the powder with the 80gran GMX..
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