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Post by GLSHOOTER on Sept 29, 2011 14:34:32 GMT -8
Well. Some reading material from far more expertise than I can offer in the caliber I rarely shoot: texaspredatorposse.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14612I know the 95gr ttsx for 6.8spc was designed at barnes strictly for the caliber so the bc and design of the projectile was ground up, not retrofit. I see retrofit in the use of the 6.5 projectiles from Barnes as they came before the specific caliber. I think that's got a lot to do with why there's a "consensus" from some of our resident experts and a few others spaces throughout the interwebz. But as oneshot said keyhole is a stabilization thing. In the above link some of the best projectiles for the lbc/Grendel is cup/lead tip style. I would agree since the best factory load I've tested to date has been the amax from hornady. FFT. I guess what this whole thread boils down to is, there are bullets out there that are a whole lot easer to make shoot. I don't ever remember seeing or hearing of any one (except Randy Brooks) that has used Barnes bullets for any long range hunting. The same with shooting targets at extreme ranges. I will agree that if you shoot in a lead free area you have to use something other than lead or rocks, solid copper bullets might be a viable alternative. Signed: One of Your Resident Experts I have not personally had the need for the Barnes type but I have read a bit on the DRT bullets. They got a got write up in one of the gun mags and I read some stuff by blow hard on another board about how great they are. I know he was from up North but I swore there was banjo music in the background. Greg
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Post by edegeorge on Oct 7, 2011 5:05:14 GMT -8
I tried the DRT bullets in my 223 and 308. TO give you some background I lease a farm that is over run with pigs. So much so that I average 40 to 50 pigs a year hunting only a few months out of the year. With this being said I decided to try the DRT bullets. I shot several pigs and 2 deer with them and the results were not impressive. I will say that the accuracy of the bullets at least in my guns was excellent even match quality. As far as terminal performance the bullets just passed right through the animals making a pin hole entrance and exit hole with both calibers. One pig I shot had some evidence of expansion but there was less damage than any common hunting bullet at a fraction of the price. Needless to say I wont be buying anymore of them!
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Oct 7, 2011 9:53:04 GMT -8
I tried the DRT bullets in my 223 and 308. TO give you some background I lease a farm that is over run with pigs. So much so that I average 40 to 50 pigs a year hunting only a few months out of the year. With this being said I decided to try the DRT bullets. I shot several pigs and 2 deer with them and the results were not impressive. I will say that the accuracy of the bullets at least in my guns was excellent even match quality. As far as terminal performance the bullets just passed right through the animals making a pin hole entrance and exit hole with both calibers. One pig I shot had some evidence of expansion but there was less damage than any common hunting bullet at a fraction of the price. Needless to say I wont be buying anymore of them! Thanks for the report from an unbiased shooter/user. The gun mags and the guy that was pushing them over on another site were empathic that the DRT was the panacea of bullet design. Greg
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Post by edegeorge on Oct 7, 2011 12:37:04 GMT -8
My goal was to find a bullet that would release all of its energy into the animal without a pass through. There are large numbers of expensive cows on this farm so a pass through would not be good. With the claims of any target being "DRT" I had to try.
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Post by toolsofthetrade on Oct 12, 2011 20:38:03 GMT -8
In a search for a bullet that would hold together for a potential elk hunt i tried the 120 GMX's, 120Gr TTSX, 100gr TTSX and 129gr Interbond., all but the 100gr TTSx showed sign of bullet upset/keyholing, the 100gr TTSx are shooting approx 1 MOA.
Others have said they have good luck with the 129gs SST, but no one seems willing to share their load data to help me out.
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Post by wachtelhund on Feb 4, 2015 10:07:51 GMT -8
I have a supply of the old Barnes X bullets in 6.5 and .338 calibers have never had a problem shooting in several of my 6.5 caliber rifles. I also have a .330 Dakota built on a Win model 70 action and Pac-Nor match SS hunting weight barrel. It shoots sub MOA groups with 225 grain Banes X bullets and 85 grains of RL-22. Pass throughs are a problem though. On an Alaskan caribou hunt, I picked out one bull up on a hill side, above the main group of about 70 caribou; a 300 yard shot. Dropped it with one shot. When we got to it, we found a dead cow fifty yards past it. I had not seen it in the alders, the bullet passed through the bull and also killed the cow.
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