angus6
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Post by angus6 on Apr 22, 2013 18:33:32 GMT -8
Any chance that the better bushing die info could be added ?
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 22, 2013 20:29:11 GMT -8
Any chance that the better bushing die info could be added ? Define better bushing info.. The first post covers it for doing the loading. Greg
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Post by angus6 on Apr 23, 2013 14:51:07 GMT -8
Any chance that the better bushing die info could be added ? Define better bushing info.. The first post covers it for doing the loading. Greg Greg talking with Ritch I 'm getting that the IIRC Wilson ? dies have a better lead in on the bushing then Redding dies. The bushing combo in the OP didn't work very well for me , I ended up adding a .277 and doing it in3 steps as I was wasting brass doing it in 2 steps I'll be starting on a 1000pc run tomorrow, got to remember to call and see about ordering a trim die in 6x6.8 for the rt1200
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 23, 2013 16:33:57 GMT -8
Define better bushing info.. The first post covers it for doing the loading. Greg Greg talking with Ritch I 'm getting that the IIRC Wilson ? dies have a better lead in on the bushing then Redding dies. The bushing combo in the OP didn't work very well for me , I ended up adding a .277 and doing it in3 steps as I was wasting brass doing it in 2 steps I'll be starting on a 1000pc run tomorrow, got to remember to call and see about ordering a trim die in 6x6.8 for the rt1200 Redding DIES, Wilson BUSHINGS Good luck on the trim die. They don't exist unless it is a custom and I have never heard of one. The Gracey could be fixed up with a special holder with about a month lead time. Greg
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angus6
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Post by angus6 on Apr 23, 2013 18:02:51 GMT -8
So I can toss the Redding bushing and replace with the Wilson ? Cool as I said in earlier posts this bushing thing is new Didn't catch on that those were Wilson part numbers , the Redding ones I ended up with were all that were in stock when I ordered the die Any reason not to put the Reding bushing in the lathe and take a Cratex point and work the edge over ? Knew the trim die would be a custom, just need to call CH4D and ask about it maybe get in time for a Christmas present
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Post by The Wolverine on Apr 23, 2013 22:42:55 GMT -8
Define better bushing info.. The first post covers it for doing the loading. Greg Greg talking with Ritch I 'm getting that the IIRC Wilson ? dies have a better lead in on the bushing then Redding dies. The bushing combo in the OP didn't work very well for me , I ended up adding a .277 and doing it in3 steps as I was wasting brass doing it in 2 steps I'll be starting on a 1000pc run tomorrow, got to remember to call and see about ordering a trim die in 6x6.8 for the rt1200 Sounds like a lube problem to me, what lube are you using? Imperial sizing wax is the best I have ever used. I did a hundred with the bushings listed above in two steps and did not have any trouble, all came out perfect.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 25, 2013 14:49:57 GMT -8
So I can toss the Redding bushing and replace with the Wilson ? Cool as I said in earlier posts this bushing thing is new Didn't catch on that those were Wilson part numbers , the Redding ones I ended up with were all that were in stock when I ordered the die Any reason not to put the Reding bushing in the lathe and take a Cratex point and work the edge over ? Knew the trim die would be a custom, just need to call CH4D and ask about it maybe get in time for a Christmas present You could cratex the Reddings it but I would just spend the $13.00 each and buy the Wilsons. Of course having a lathe does make things much simpler and more exact. The trim die from CH4D is doable. Wait time might be interesting on that one. I use the Gracey for everything in quantity outside of 556. Greg
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Post by angus6 on Apr 25, 2013 18:30:22 GMT -8
Yeah wished the lathe was mine, got a decent shop at work. So if I was to order new bushings would you recommend Sierrra 55 or 70 gr BlitzKing or 70gr MatchKing over another box of 58gr z-max
Think Bruce was 8 months wait on a custom trim die, I've been doing all my .223 brass processing on the 1050 and will atleast run the 6.8 1 pass to do the primer pockets , guess with the wait at CH4D it wouldn't be a bad idea to order a case holder to trim on the Gracey for now
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 25, 2013 19:27:55 GMT -8
Yeah wished the lathe was mine, got a decent shop at work. So if I was to order new bushings would you recommend Sierrra 55 or 70 gr BlitzKing or 70gr MatchKing over another box of 58gr z-max Think Bruce was 8 months wait on a custom trim die, I've been doing all my .223 brass processing on the 1050 and will atleast run the 6.8 1 pass to do the primer pockets , guess with the wait at CH4D it wouldn't be a bad idea to order a case holder to trim on the Gracey for now I would go 58 and 70. The 1050 will fix those pockets quick. Greg
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Post by gaberelli on Aug 27, 2013 16:36:05 GMT -8
I started preparing my brass for my 6x6.8 today. I am using a Redding Type S die and the Redding 285 and 267 bushings. My brass looked very nice and things went smoothly on the first couple I ran through. I think a couple of tips that I have accumulated along the way from Greg and my own trial and error will help for people new to bushing dies starting to reload for a caliber like this.
1. Buy the Redding 6.8 SPC Type S die and then contact Redding regarding the 6mm decapping assembly. I called because nowhere had it in stock. Lets just say it was worth the call...
2. I have always used Imperial die wax, but I think that it really helps provide proper lube for the necking down process
3. My dies did not have the instructions enclosed so I found out through research that proper die set up is:
- run die down to shell plate but be careful on how much you overcam the die. After firing and measuring your first fired brass, you can adjust as needed but be sure to run it down to the shell plate for the first resizing
- the bushing go in the die with the inscribed side down (towards the shell plate). this is so the bushing contacts the top of the die during resizing with the smooth side of the bushing.
- for an AR style rifle, some reccomend a more full resizing of the length of the neck. Redding dies are not designed to neck all the way down. When screwing down the stem, back it off to allow the bushing to free float as designed but do not back off more than the 1/16 that Redding recommends.
4. Lastly, when you are actually running the arm of your press, lower the arm until you feel it starting to contact the bushing, finish the lowering of the arm with a "popping" motion. This seems to be the ticket rather than using the steady pressure technique I have always used for other calibers (not necking down).
I hope this is helpful for the next guy that is learning as he goes like I am. Also, if anyone see something grossly incorrect in my process, please let me know. I am still learning.
I can't wait to shoot this thing! All I have are 55 grain Noslers right now but I am looking for some heavier pills to shoot as well.
Gabe
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Aug 27, 2013 16:57:50 GMT -8
You have it figured out. It is all in the "pop" technique for me. Also I have elected to go with an intermediate in the middle. It takes longer but it seems a bit less violent. LOL
Greg
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 17:48:16 GMT -8
The only thing I see that I would do differently is the bushing goes in with the numbers up away from the shell plate. The bushing is tapered so with your set up you are sizing to .2665 Also once you have the brass in the die I tighten down the decapping assembly. If you set it up in this manner it will be centered.
And by the way welcome to the forum!!!!!!!!!
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Post by robk on Dec 9, 2014 6:39:52 GMT -8
Just starting to investigate this caliber. On the first post in this thread, a seating dies is mentioned.
- Hornady seater die 749-003-220WS
This item number is no longer valid at Sinclair. Can some one tell me what this dies is/was? Maybe it has a new item number or can be found at another place.
Thanks
Rob
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 7:31:12 GMT -8
Just starting to investigate this caliber. On the first post in this thread, a seating dies is mentioned. - Hornady seater die 749-003-220WS This item number is no longer valid at Sinclair. Can some one tell me what this dies is/was? Maybe it has a new item number or can be found at another place. Thanks Rob The seating die you asked about was-is for a 6PPC. Hornady makes seating dies in two lengths. The die in question is the shorter version of the two. This is the first I've head about them being discontinued. If this is the case, I would buy a 6PPC die set and simply sell the size die. Or you could buy the 6mm parts from Hornady and convert any of the short die body's to 6MM. UPDATE: I just measure my Hornady 243 Winchester seating die and found it is the same length as the PPC die. Midway USA has the 243 seating die. The Hornady number is Hornady #: 044103 Midway number is: Product #: 191667
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Post by gaberelli on Dec 9, 2014 9:53:17 GMT -8
Just starting to investigate this caliber. On the first post in this thread, a seating dies is mentioned. - Hornady seater die 749-003-220WS This item number is no longer valid at Sinclair. Can some one tell me what this dies is/was? Maybe it has a new item number or can be found at another place. Thanks Rob You will love the caliber. One of my biggest gun regrets of all time was selling mine thinking I would specialize into target and varmint by getting a 6.5x6.8 and 22x6.8. I don't get out PD hunting enough to warrant the marginal benefit of the 22 over the 6x6.8. And the 6x6.8 lets you shoot up close to 100 grain pills. That's plenty for the long range target shooting I do. The 90 grain Accubond makes it viable for medium game/yotes up to and over 400 yards. It truly is a jack of all trades for the 6.8 case. Loading is a breeze with Imperial sizing wax. I did mine in two steps (.285 and .267) and never damaged a case. They guys here are very helpful if you have loading questions.
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