22 LBC

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I guess I will have to put my 22 LBC back together. This Heading has set here with no posts forever.

The 22 LBC is the perfect platform for the big 22 cal bullets. The 75 Amax and the 80 Berger work perfectly with this case. And here is the good part. You can run them at mag length, and not loose any case capacity.

More to come shortly.

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Oct 1, 2012 17:07:23 GMT -8 @rjohnson said:

I guess I will have to put my 22 LBC back together. This Heading has set here with no posts forever.

The 22 LBC is the perfect platform for the big 22 cal bullets. The 75 Amax and the 80 Berger work perfectly with this case. And here is the good part. You can run them at mag length, and not loose any case capacity.

More to come shortly.

It's little brother the 22 PPC is seen in the Match Rifle area of High Power matches a ttimes and does very well.

Greg

[lwilliams]

Well I picked up a fairly new, new to me BHW 22lbc upper that has the rails in it and I am not having the best of luck. When I measure the coal on a 75gr amax I am only getting 2.085 not the 2.26 I want for the mag length. This is measuring to the lands. I originally went to chamber one of the mag length rounds I got and it wouldnt chamber and stuck the bullet into the lands. I guess I need a lot of help on this one. Does the 22lbc move the 6.5 grendel shoulder back or only neck the parent case down. In this purchase I got the 22ppc dies to resize the brass with. Any help would be greaty appreciated. This round should make a coyote hammer if I dont get to frustrated with it before hand.

Thanks

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Dec 5, 2012 18:08:23 GMT -8 lwilliams said:

Well I picked up a fairly new, new to me BHW 22lbc upper that has the rails in it and I am not having the best of luck. When I measure the coal on a 75gr amax I am only getting 2.085 not the 2.26 I want for the mag length. This is measuring to the lands. I originally went to chamber one of the mag length rounds I got and it wouldnt chamber and stuck the bullet into the lands. I guess I need a lot of help on this one. Does the 22lbc move the 6.5 grendel shoulder back or only neck the parent case down. In this purchase I got the 22ppc dies to resize the brass with. Any help would be greaty appreciated. This round should make a coyote hammer if I dont get to frustrated with it before hand.

Thanks

The chamber will not allow you to seat to full magazine length You must determine distance to the ands or you will have an issue with excessive pressure and non-chambering like you have found

I shot a 20 LBC and it is at 2.015 with a 50 grain Berger.

You are close with your short measurements. That is the beauty of the round that you can use the LONG 22's and still be able to fed them from the magazines. It will make a great coyote round. Don't let that less than 2.258 convinces you otherwise.

The case DOES NOT move the shoulder. You may have to neck turn depending on the brass brand. Ritch can chime in on that one.

Greg

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I talked to Ritch and he told me that if you use LAPUA/AA brass and neck it down to 22 you do not have to neck turn. If you use HORNADY brass you MUST neck turn.

Greg

[lwilliams]

And of course all I have right now is hornady. Wanting to save my lapua brass for my grendel. Do you happen to know what dimension the brass will need to be necked down to, that is brass with bullet seated width. Thanks for all your help so far, I will get this thing killing coyotes yet.

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Dec 30, 2012 11:17:33 GMT -8 lwilliams said:

And of course all I have right now is hornady. Wanting to save my lapua brass for my grendel. Do you happen to know what dimension the brass will need to be necked down to, that is brass with bullet seated width. Thanks for all your help so far, I will get this thing killing coyotes yet.

I dopn't have one but here is what I would do. I'd neck down ONE piece of Lapua. Stick a bullet in it and make sure it will chamber. Measure that neck and VIOLA you have what you need.

Greg

[lwilliams]

That would be the obvious thing to do wouldnt it. Maybe the Grendel will be shooting Hornady brass and the lapua will go with this beast. Thanks for pointing out the obvious in case I decide to turn the necks.

[inkballedtarget]

Is anybody still shooting the 22 LBC? 

What kind of ballistics were yall getting with say a 50-55 grain bullet? 

Thanks,
Calvin

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Oct 3, 2013 9:22:07 GMT -8 inkballedtarget said:

Is anybody still shooting the 22 LBC? 

What kind of ballistics were yall getting with say a 50-55 grain bullet? 

Thanks,
Calvin

Welcome to the board.

Ritch has not been shooting any 22 LBC lately thanks to being up to his hips in new projects of a different nature. The 22 LBC does offer come good numbers but it is not a 22-250. More of a fast 223 but that is about it.

I shot the 20 LBC extensively and found it offered only marginal gains over the 204 Ruger/20 Practical velocities.

My suggestion, at this point, is to relax, have a glass of sweet tea and watch this board. I predict there will be some news on here in the very near future to make the 224 bore guys happy.

Greg

[inkballedtarget]

Hi Greg!

Thanks for all of the info! Ritch has been mentoring me in the way of the wildcats! Ive got my first build in the process, I have my order into BHW for my 243LBC right now.
I was thinking since I have the brass and the die, why not do a 22LBC. But only a fast 223 is disheartening....... I was really hoping that the 22 lbc would be quite the hammer on yotes.. 
I guess i will see what yall have cooking! I saw some of the teasers over in the reloading page... Im looking forward to the big unveiling. 

Thanks for everything,
Calvin

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Oct 3, 2013 18:07:30 GMT -8 inkballedtarget said:

Hi Greg!

Thanks for all of the info! Ritch has been mentoring me in the way of the wildcats! Ive got my first build in the process, I have my order into BHW for my 243LBC right now.
I was thinking since I have the brass and the die, why not do a 22LBC. But only a fast 223 is disheartening....... I was really hoping that the 22 lbc would be quite the hammer on yotes.. 
I guess i will see what yall have cooking! I saw some of the teasers over in the reloading page... Im looking forward to the big unveiling. 

Thanks for everything,
Calvin

I believe the 243LBC and the 6X68 are two of the best balanced cartridges on the scene. I also believe the 20 Practical is the best 20 on the block. When it comes to the 224 slingers the 22-250 is the King for uber-fast yet not hard to load for. The 223 Remington is by far one of the most utilitarian cases in the field. It can meet the needs and will challenge the skill of 60% of the shooters out there for smaller game. What we need is a fast easily made 22 on an AR frame with the speed of a 22-250. Maybe we can look into that and save that Lapua brass.

Greg

[inkballedtarget]

Hi Greg!

I have dabbled with the 204 rug, but not a 20 practical although i have read about them. If i maybe so bold to disagree with you on the 22-250 being the king of ubber fast 22 cal slingers. If you were to slightly twist my arm i would say unequivocally that the 220 swift would take that roll hands down.. But then again iam a swift fanboy.. But being that this is not a swift form or thread, ill refrain.. :-)

I have a cmt upper and lower waiting for something special. Just as soon as i get this 243lbc shooting, I want to build another wildcat.. SO we shall see!

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Oct 3, 2013 21:03:52 GMT -8 inkballedtarget said:

Hi Greg!

I have dabbled with the 204 rug, but not a 20 practical although i have read about them. If i maybe so bold to disagree with you on the 22-250 being the king of ubber fast 22 cal slingers. If you were to slightly twist my arm i would say unequivocally that the 220 swift would take that roll hands down.. But then again iam a swift fanboy.. But being that this is not a swift form or thread, ill refrain.. :-)

I have a cmt upper and lower waiting for something special. Just as soon as i get this 243lbc shooting, I want to build another wildcat.. SO we shall see!

The Swift is only faster than the 22-250. And with the new powders out its not by much. In terms of sales and merits the 22-250 out shines the Swift even on a cloudy day. The swift is a grand old cartridge but all things being equal, the 22-250 will run with it neck and neck.

And lets not forget the brass. The base of the Swift has a rim to deal with and is only made by the big 3. The 22-250 on the other hand has brass made by the best in the world. And we all know the brass is the most important single component when it comes down to accuracy.

My point in all this rambling is for 100 FPS its not worth the extra effort to shoot a Swift.

[inkballedtarget]

Hi Ritch!

I know the brass is more abundant, but three of the majors is good enough for me. Im not up to speed on all the new powders, but I have a bunch on order, so we shall see.  
As for the sales and merits of a caliber, I guess I dont put a whole lot of stock in this. I don't foresee the swift going anywhere anytime soon. 

By no means is my argument rational, and common sense and logic would point you to the 22-250. That being said there is just something about shooting a swift that the 22-250 doesnt bring to the table... It is hard to explain.

Hope you are well!

Will talk soon,
Calvin