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Post by wfa on May 28, 2015 18:53:02 GMT -8
The 18" "light" barrel arrived today after only about 4 weeks. All the parts for the 264 LBC upper were sitting in a box, waiting. Most everything went together like they were old friends except, of course, the usual gas block roll pin drama - but it was finally beaten into submission.
With the upper assembled, wearing the only spare scope I could find with rings installed, it weighs 6lb 12oz. I quickly "confirmed" that the 264 LBC is NOT a 6.5 Grendel! Cases formed from 7.62x39 will have to be turned in order to chamber (even without a bullet seated). I had 50 new Hornady cases which was great since I couldn't find my 6.5 neck turning pilot. Oh, well. Unfortunately, most all of the Hornady cases were over length (and wouldn't chamber even without a bullet seated) and needed to be trimmed. Oh, well.
The rain stopped long enough to get the rifle on paper at 25 yards. The last three rounds went into one irregular 30 cal hole. Oh, well! Then the rain returned. Oh, well.
I think this puppy is going to be a real hunter.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 28, 2015 19:07:51 GMT -8
Congratulations on the build. I've got 500 6PPC cases I could use if I got desperate. I just buy the blue box Grendel and call it good. The stuff lasts forever if you treat it right.
I hope the barrel shoots bug holes for you.
Greg
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Post by wfa on May 28, 2015 19:28:09 GMT -8
It shows every indication of doing just that. A total of six rounds down range, three of them in the "same hole" - looks like a "good omen" to me!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 2:48:37 GMT -8
4 WEEKS! i just came off a 100 day wait I guess it is who you know  |
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Post by wfa on May 29, 2015 5:02:00 GMT -8
If you find out who it is that I know, let ME know! |
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 29, 2015 5:57:12 GMT -8
4 WEEKS! i just came off a 100 day wait I guess it is who you know If the wrong mix runs for election you are going to see every company in the US having slow delivery. I ordered two AR 15 uppers during the first election cycle. It took seven months to get them and they were just basic A2 units. Based on my internet surfing it appears any company that is doing made to order barrels, note I said QUALITY not the semi-bottom feeder companies, as in Kreiger, Shilen and Pac Nor are running 4-12 months right now. Delivery times can be delayed for a myriad of reasons. It can be as simple, or devastating, as no steel in-transit not showing up and this happens more than most realize as one company in Germany provides maybe 60-70% of the barrel steel in the US to the QUALITY barrel makers. It can be the guys that grind the buttons for reaming and rifling getting backed up or taken down to the basics not sending out the right reamers. I believe that the industry is so busy that there exists demand induced choke points that have a cascade effect. One component of the process being unavailable causes a back up far in excess of any foreseeable level. Now that you have your barrel I'd wait six months and order another one so it will be there for the next spring challenge as this one will juts increase your BRD and it will ave to be satisfied. Greg |
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Post by mosigdude on May 29, 2015 11:11:31 GMT -8
Does BHW have machines dedicated to specific calibers? I'm approaching 14 weeks on an American 30, 12 weeks on a 20 practical, 7 weeks on a 6.5x6.8spc and 4 weeks on a 264LBC, I kind of just expected to get them in order but if this one arrived in 4 weeks this might suggest something different.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 29, 2015 13:14:52 GMT -8
Does BHW have machines dedicated to specific calibers? I'm approaching 14 weeks on an American 30, 12 weeks on a 20 practical, 7 weeks on a 6.5x6.8spc and 4 weeks on a 264LBC, I kind of just expected to get them in order but if this one arrived in 4 weeks this might suggest something different. No they are not dedicated. It can be a factor of which barrels blanks have been drilled and rifled. They do the drilling/rifling in batches according to bore size as swapping from one to the other is not, shall we say, not like changing socks. Also special treatments like fluting and coatings can extend the wait somewhat. When I was there they had a box leaving the next day. It had 400+ barrels heading for blackening. That process takes about 10-14 days by itself because of the quantities involved. Greg |
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Post by mosigdude on May 29, 2015 14:36:33 GMT -8
It looks like, at least for this order, the planets must have aligned! Congrats!!
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Post by campguy308 on May 29, 2015 15:13:11 GMT -8
The 18" "light" barrel arrived today after only about 4 weeks. All the parts for the 264 LBC upper were sitting in a box, waiting. Most everything went together like they were old friends except, of course, the usual gas block roll pin drama - but it was finally beaten into submission. With the upper assembled, wearing the only spare scope I could find with rings installed, it weighs 6lb 12oz. I quickly "confirmed" that the 264 LBC is NOT a 6.5 Grendel! Cases formed from 7.62x39 will have to be turned in order to chamber (even without a bullet seated). I had 50 new Hornady cases which was great since I couldn't find my 6.5 neck turning pilot. Oh, well. Unfortunately, most all of the Hornady cases were over length (and wouldn't chamber even without a bullet seated) and needed to be trimmed. Oh, well. The rain stopped long enough to get the rifle on paper at 25 yards. The last three rounds went into one irregular 30 cal hole. Oh, well! Then the rain returned. Oh, well. I think this puppy is going to be a real hunter. Are you saying that you can't chamber a piece of factory hornady brass that is trimmed to the proper length at all, or is it just that the brass that you have was too long? I thought that the only difference between a SAAMI Grendel chamber and the 264LBC chamber was neck diameter and the angle of the lead/throat. |
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Post by wfa on May 29, 2015 15:37:16 GMT -8
The Hornady brass I received was well over max length as received; no they didn't chamber. It's trimmed now, chambers now. No big deal; just verification of "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong - at the worst possible time. " (aka "Murphy's Law").
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 29, 2015 16:31:18 GMT -8
The Hornady brass I received was well over max length as received; no they didn't chamber. It's trimmed now, chambers now. No big deal; just verification of "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong - at the worst possible time. " (aka "Murphy's Law"). That is a great illustration that not all brass we get is perfect from the factory. I've loaded a couple thousand from Hornady from the box and all were in spec but I still check. As I said I prefer the Blue Box stuff but I'm lucky I can drive five miles and buy it off the shelf for almost exactly the same price as the Hornady. I have one fellow I deal with that shots Hornady exclusively in his 264 LBC and it is a screamer. Managed a 0.5 MOA target in a match shot in fifteen seconds for five shots with an SST load I worked up for him. That chambering is a slam dunk for accuracy in these barrels. The only one I like better is the 243 LBC for overall accuracy. It seems to shoo way out of proportion. I took a new barrel, less than 30 rounds for load development, to a 500 yard F-Class match. First dial in shot from a 100 yard zero hit the X!!! First ten record shots were one nine, four X's and five 10's. The X-Ring is 5" at that distance. I was so nervous about this barrel and match I forgot to look at the wind flags. There were some twitchy little breezes yet this barrel seemed to shoot right though them. That barel is not going anywhere until I shoot it out!!LOL Keep us posted as you work with yours. Greg |
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