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Post by Brandon Sneed on Dec 14, 2011 6:40:40 GMT -8
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Post by heavy65 on Dec 14, 2011 7:29:38 GMT -8
It seems that a lot of barrelmakers have this dilemme about nitriding. It sounds like the coolest new kid on the block, lots of customer inquiries fly around, but it is still an unknown quantity. Accuracy, throat erosion, cost, cleaning methods, break-in methods etc all seem to be pretty well understood, but the one thing that seems to make barrelmakers skittish is the prospect of the long term longevity of the barrel.
One solution for that might be to offer a group buy on a spam can caliber barrel, perhaps 5.45x39, with barrels that are nitrided on arrival. This would guarantee a good sample size of barrels out there in the wild that are highly likely to have more rounds of varying quality shot through them in a given time than other barrels. Group buy participants would be invited to share their results. Just an idea.
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Post by flexbravo on Jan 13, 2013 14:19:18 GMT -8
Given the choice I'd prefer my barrel nitrided/melonited as well.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Jan 13, 2013 18:11:23 GMT -8
Given the choice I'd prefer my barrel nitrided/melonited as well. You can send it out and have it done. Nothing wrong with the process if that is what you want. The cyro-freeze thing has always interested me but I have not dropped the coin to try. Greg
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jquinn
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Post by jquinn on Feb 15, 2013 19:37:00 GMT -8
This is my first polygonal barrel (other than my glock). I nitivced in the berakin procedure you listed, there's no mention of using brass brushes. Do you recommending avoiding brushes on you barrels (less crevices to trap copper than a regular rifled barrel)?
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 16, 2013 10:53:21 GMT -8
This is my first polygonal barrel (other than my glock). I nitivced in the berakin procedure you listed, there's no mention of using brass brushes. Do you recommending avoiding brushes on you barrels (less crevices to trap copper than a regular rifled barrel)? Brass brushes are OK. I have been using Gunslick Foaming Cleaner and no brass brush is needed. After about 20 minutes three dry patches and it as slick as a whistle and clean as a Safeway chittlin. Greg
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Post by codemonkey17 on Mar 28, 2013 18:11:43 GMT -8
I'm expecting my barrel to arrive in the next week or two... I've not been able to find a cleaning solution that states specifically that its not a copper removing solvent.... Is there a few brands you could specify that you would recommend? I'd rather do the break-in correctly given the quality of the barrel and the time i've put into this build.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Mar 28, 2013 20:47:03 GMT -8
I'm expecting my barrel to arrive in the next week or two... I've not been able to find a cleaning solution that states specifically that its not a copper removing solvent.... Is there a few brands you could specify that you would recommend? I'd rather do the break-in correctly given the quality of the barrel and the time i've put into this build. They will all take some out. Plain old Hoppes would be my choice. Greg
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Post by nate on Feb 18, 2014 19:49:53 GMT -8
Any suggestions as to what I should use when I break in my barrel? Any certain solvent or oil work best? For that matter is either solvent or oil more beneficial over the other? I've seen some say use solvent, others oil. I'd really like someone to help clarify this, I sure don't want to harm my barrel while trying to break it in.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 18, 2014 21:04:45 GMT -8
Any suggestions as to what I should use when I break in my barrel? Any certain solvent or oil work best? For that matter is either solvent or oil more beneficial over the other? I've seen some say use solvent, others oil. I'd really like someone to help clarify this, I sure don't want to harm my barrel while trying to break it in. I use Shooters Choice to start. I clean about every five shots for the first forty. Realistically these barrels don't need it. I use Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner for 95% of my later cleaning. You won't find copper on these guns in under 100 rounds if mine are any indication. Greg
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Post by midwestpredator on Feb 18, 2014 22:40:30 GMT -8
Any suggestions as to what I should use when I break in my barrel? Any certain solvent or oil work best? For that matter is either solvent or oil more beneficial over the other? I've seen some say use solvent, others oil. I'd really like someone to help clarify this, I sure don't want to harm my barrel while trying to break it in. I use Shooters Choice to start. I clean about every five shots for the first forty. Realistically these barrels don't need it. I use Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner for 95% of my later cleaning. You won't find copper on these guns in under 100 rounds if mine are any indication. Greg You know what I did for barrel break in?? I shot them 2 rounds to form brass to the chamber so I could set my dies, then cleaned with some bore scrubber on a patch followed by 1 or 2 dry patches then I went into load work. During load work I ran a snake through them after 10 rounds and again at 20 rounds. I wouldn't waste a bunch of components messing around with a lengthy break in procedure. If you just cant live with yourself without going through a "process" then by all means "scratch your itch" but IME it wont be needed.
soon as my next barrel shows up I will do the same as the last 2 and this one will be a shooter as well.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 19, 2014 7:23:35 GMT -8
I use Shooters Choice to start. I clean about every five shots for the first forty. Realistically these barrels don't need it. I use Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner for 95% of my later cleaning. You won't find copper on these guns in under 100 rounds if mine are any indication. Greg You know what I did for barrel break in?? I shot them 2 rounds to form brass to the chamber so I could set my dies, then cleaned with some bore scrubber on a patch followed by 1 or 2 dry patches then I went into load work. During load work I ran a snake through them after 10 rounds and again at 20 rounds. I wouldn't waste a bunch of components messing around with a lengthy break in procedure. If you just cant live with yourself without going through a "process" then by all means "scratch your itch" but IME it wont be needed.
soon as my next barrel shows up I will do the same as the last 2 and this one will be a shooter as well.
When I am doing the clean every five, if I do, I am shooting load work up groups. I never waste components on purpose except for the first two I take out and shoot in the desert for case size information...LOL Grerg
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Post by midwestpredator on Feb 19, 2014 9:38:17 GMT -8
I agree, no need to go blast 100rds through a custom barrel for no other reason than to shoot them. Especially when components can be tough to replace as well as the rising cost of them. Both my barrels have been shooters from the very beginning.
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