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Post by rancher81 on Dec 9, 2011 8:07:57 GMT -8
Hi, newbie to the forum. I'm looking for a barrel for my ar15 build and was turned on to BHW by another forum. My main concern is the durability of the stainless steel barrel compared to a chrome lined one (say if i get a little carried away and start cranking rounds off at the range). The main use will be playing at the range, a little varmint/preaditor hunting and possible a compititon from time to time at my local range.
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Post by rancher81 on Dec 9, 2011 8:13:12 GMT -8
Also, what is the differance in the LTM and standard profile???
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Post by Brandon Sneed on Dec 9, 2011 9:09:17 GMT -8
Hi, newbie to the forum. I'm looking for a barrel for my ar15 build and was turned on to BHW by another forum. My main concern is the durability of the stainless steel barrel compared to a chrome lined one (say if i get a little carried away and start cranking rounds off at the range). The main use will be playing at the range, a little varmint/preaditor hunting and possible a compititon from time to time at my local range. In practical terms the chrome lined will last much longer than the stainless, alone. I've seen great strides in the stainless being melonited (compare glock and Springfield armory coatings on stainless receivers and barrels) that create a system superior to the outdated chrome lining method. Ymmv but I would live to test it out pending an ammo contract lol. Also, what is the differance in the LTM and standard profile??? Main difference is the profile is thinner under the handguard.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Dec 9, 2011 18:26:51 GMT -8
I can say that the stainless barrels will hold up pretty well in the shooting environment you envision. I have shot a bit, cough,cough, of IPSC rifle over the years and running hard have never injured my barrels to the point they won't shoot well.
One thing going for the BHW offerings is the poly rifling. It has less fouling, shoots faster and will stay accurate longer than a standard rifled tube in the same steel. Those little polys just don't have the sharp edges to wear down and will stay around a long time.
I would not hesitate to put one of these on my next IPSC rifle for 3 Gun work.
Greg
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Post by rancher81 on Dec 10, 2011 8:32:49 GMT -8
Thanks guys,i've been back and forth on wich barrel i wanted to use on my build. i had about decided to go the chrome lined route but after more reading up on it it looks like im going to give BHW a try on this build
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Post by letaz77 on Dec 12, 2011 21:45:41 GMT -8
Hi ranch81.
You will not be disappointed with a BHW barrel. Chrome line will last longer in a military environment where you may see non-stop rapid fire for extended periods of time. Given your description as to what you plan to use your weapon for, I would say it is irrelevant if you use a stainless or chrome-lined barrel. Just my $.02.
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Post by rancher81 on Dec 16, 2011 8:13:38 GMT -8
Thanks guys, i'm hoping when i get ready to order the barrel it's not to long of a wait to get it, maybe they'll have one in stock since the 5.56 is a popular caliber. Really cann't wait to get it together and shooting...
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Post by djmfl on Dec 16, 2011 19:44:53 GMT -8
Chrome lining is fine for military and the various environments our troops are likely to encounter, but as a regular Joe, it not something that is necessary nor, quite frankly, desired.
In more than 40 years of competition rifle shooting, not one rifle that I used had a chrome lined bore and they all out lasted me.
I just fired my first BHW barrel, a .264 LBC, heavy match 24" barrel attached to a LH, railed upper. Wow, very impressive. I started to keep track of my group near the end of the 60 shot string. The last 8 rounds created a very nice, slightly oval, single hole that was under 1/2" at 100 yards. You can't beat that!
You'll love a BHW barrel when you are ready and don't worry about the wait. I have another set up on order now for hunting with a LTR barrel. They are worth waiting for!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2011 19:53:45 GMT -8
Chrome is also good for folks that like to shoot steel. I do not like it.
I had two SS hart barrels in .260rem barrels lasted around 1000 shots each (Accuracy life). The barrels still shot but they were not competitive after that. obviously if you are competing any lining of any kind is not near any barrel. 206rem is a good barrel burner. I find the nitro-carburazing a more efficient method, also called melonite. it doesn't add any thinkness or rough spots to the bore. I get the same accuracy that non-chromed lined barrels. It is quite good for hunting in rain and mud and kick around or rust might be a concern. It lasts longer than chrome.
Furthermore a soldier in a single tour might got through 4 or 5 barrels. Fight or not, it is not 100% needed but your know those armors need to keep uncle sam business rolling.
I think the cost of a barrel is not a huge concern taking into account everything else that goes in the shooting expenses so get a good "chrome free barrel" that is more accurate, shoot it and then get some more barrels.
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Post by rancher81 on Dec 17, 2011 4:19:56 GMT -8
Well i ended up ordering my barrel yesterday, 5.56 16" standard profile w/black finish, said it would be 6-8 weeks. Now i've got to find something to keep me busy till then.lol
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Post by bkwillia on Feb 4, 2012 14:35:52 GMT -8
I was also concerned about this and had almost settled on chrome lining but in actuality I will probably never do any quick firing but mostly target and predator hunting. Is rust an issue with the non chrome lined barrels? I don't plan on abusing it or anything but when you are out hunting shit happens. Still not sure if it outweighs the benefits of the BHW barrels.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Feb 4, 2012 15:29:18 GMT -8
I was also concerned about this and had almost settled on chrome lining but in actuality I will probably never do any quick firing but mostly target and predator hunting. Is rust an issue with the non chrome lined barrels? I don't plan on abusing it or anything but when you are out hunting shit happens. Still not sure if it outweighs the benefits of the BHW barrels. No issue on rust in the non-chromed barrel. Remember chrome lining is the EXCEPTION in the barrel world. I have never had a rust issue on any of my rifles in the past 50 + years or so and own no chrome lined bores. The SS type that BHW makes are not impervious to rust, nor are any other SS barrels, but they will certainly handle anything you can throw at it as long as you do a bit of cleaning like any one would do with good equipment. The chrome lined bores, generally will not shoot as well as the non-chromed. Many shooters don't have the skills to tell but there are a few guys that can wring 'em out!! Greg
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Post by bravo5two on Feb 5, 2012 6:40:41 GMT -8
I was also concerned about this and had almost settled on chrome lining but in actuality I will probably never do any quick firing but mostly target and predator hunting. Is rust an issue with the non chrome lined barrels? I don't plan on abusing it or anything but when you are out hunting shit happens. Still not sure if it outweighs the benefits of the BHW barrels. SS will rust just like any other steel, alloy or non alloy, albeit slower to show. However, as part of the cleaning routine, you do get some lubricant in the bore so no worry about rusting out the bore. If you are going to store the rifle for any extended time, run a wet oil patch through before storage.
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Post by quincy on Feb 5, 2012 9:43:35 GMT -8
"run a wet oil patch through before storage". And a dry one through the barrel before you shoot it.
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Post by bkwillia on Feb 6, 2012 17:14:42 GMT -8
I'd like to think I'd be in the group that can tell the difference in the accuracy. ;D I guess I'll find out soon enough!
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