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Post by ilive2h on Apr 5, 2012 7:40:31 GMT -8
Does anyone have reloading data for the 20 tactical, or know of a good source? What i have been able to find has been very limited and not much in the way of min and max loads. I wil be shooting out of a AR not a bolt.
thanks, andy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2012 9:51:53 GMT -8
I took this form the Hodgdon web site. This should give you a good start to work up some loads.
33 GR. HDY V-MAX Hodgdon Varget .204" 2.245" 25.0 3344 37,900 PSI 27.0C 3659 49,600 PSI
33 GR. HDY V-MAX Hodgdon BL-C(2) .204" 2.245" 25.0 3478 39,000 PSI 28.0 3775 49,000 PSI
33 GR. HDY V-MAX Hodgdon H335 .204" 2.245" 24.5 3643 44,700 PSI 26.7 3917 54,600 PSI
33 GR. HDY V-MAX Hodgdon H4895 .204" 2.245" 25.0 3573 42,700 PSI 27.0C 3800 50,600 PSI
33 GR. HDY V-MAX Hodgdon Benchmark .204" 2.245" 23.0 3506 41,900 PSI 25.5 3844 54,500 PSI
33 GR. HDY V-MAX Hodgdon H322 .204" 2.245" 23.0 3529 42,900 PSI 25.5 3852 54,900 PSI
33 GR. HDY V-MAX Hodgdon H4198 .204" 2.245" 20.0 3434 40,500 PSI 22.5 3844 55,100 PSI
36 GR. BER HP Hodgdon Varget .204" 2.200" 25.0 3456 45,200 PSI 27.0C 3681 54,300 PSI
36 GR. BER HP Hodgdon BL-C(2) .204" 2.200" 25.0 3353 38,900 PSI 28.0 3771 53,700 PSI
36 GR. BER HP Hodgdon H335 .204" 2.200" 23.5 3518 45,900 PSI 25.5 3751 54,700 PSI
36 GR. BER HP Hodgdon H4895 .204" 2.200" 24.0 3453 42,900 PSI 26.5C 3746 54,900 PSI
36 GR. BER HP Hodgdon Benchmark .204" 2.200" 22.0 3358 42,000 PSI 24.5 3678 54,400 PSI
36 GR. BER HP Hodgdon H322 .204" 2.200" 22.0 3434 44,900 PSI 24.2 3686 54,500 PSI
36 GR. BER HP Hodgdon H4198 .204" 2.200" 20.0 3434 45,000 PSI 22.0 3675 55,000 PSI
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 5, 2012 10:03:39 GMT -8
Does anyone have reloading data for the 20 tactical, or know of a good source? What i have been able to find has been very limited and not much in the way of min and max loads. I wil be shooting out of a AR not a bolt. thanks, andy I just happen to have one of the little sped demons. I got my data from Hornady and Accurate Arms plus a tad from Western Powders. The Woodchuck Den that started Small Caliber News was the big developer on this one and had lots of stuff over the years on it. Todd Kindler was the man on this one. He is, shall we say, aggressive in his loading data and I personally am very cautious with his info. Do a search for the SCN and the Woodchuck Den and you may turn up something that interests you. Of course since brass is available commercially now it does save some time but I continue to make mine out of LC using Redding Type S bushing dies. I shot mine side by side with my 204's and since I have the 20 LBC to shoot I think I am 20 caliber covered except for a huge gaping hole that MUST be filed with the 20 Practical. That one is, to me, the primo 20 caliber cartridge for all applications unless you can get a 24" 20 LBC and are willing to do the work to make the cases. Greg |
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Post by ilive2h on Apr 5, 2012 20:59:32 GMT -8
thanks. It sounds like if you where to only get one .204 you would go with the 20 practical or the 20 LBC is that right? could you explane a little more to me before i put my order in for brass, dies and a barrel. I was thinking that the 20 tac might have a bit better brass life then the 20 prac and i liked the idea of just buying the brass and not having to mess around with it. the 20 lbc is very interesting but i felt a lot more trouble with the brass and special magazines and i didn't know what all else. What do you think? I am planing to only get one 20 and use it primarily for taking nice prime bushy coyotes at ranges of a few feet to as far out as i can learn to shoot.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 6, 2012 13:00:36 GMT -8
thanks. It sounds like if you where to only get one .204 you would go with the 20 practical or the 20 LBC is that right? could you explane a little more to me before i put my order in for brass, dies and a barrel. I was thinking that the 20 tac might have a bit better brass life then the 20 prac and i liked the idea of just buying the brass and not having to mess around with it. the 20 lbc is very interesting but i felt a lot more trouble with the brass and special magazines and i didn't know what all else. What do you think? I am planing to only get one 20 and use it primarily for taking nice prime bushy coyotes at ranges of a few feet to as far out as i can learn to shoot. You have some issues no matter which way you go. I'll try to explain how I view them then you have to pick.  All four of these will shoot a 20 caliber bullet within 100 FPS of each other in any given weight. Not enough difference to worry about period. The 20 LBC is labor intensive and brass must be formed in several steps. You will need a set of bushing type 6 PPC dies to load it, a neck turner rig and a batch of time. Brass is available (6.5 Grendel) from Hornady and Lapua/Alexander Arms. NOT a beginner level cartridge. It will outrun the others for the same length barrel but I don't think it is worth the extra effort. Special 6.5 mags are needed as opposed to the other three that use regular 556 magazines. I have been shooting the 20 LBC for about six months. It was a challenge but one that I learned a great deal on. The 204 Ruger, I have three, is a good round. That being said it is not a good round for the AR15 as the case is a tad too long to let you seat the bullets out properly and not get into the curvature of the bullet and seat them below the ogive. Of course factory ammo is available, as is the brass, but it just doesn't give you anything. Regular dies can be used though I still went with the bushing type. The 20 Tactical is one of the ballistic quadruplets. I have been shooting one for about 5 years now. It requires moving the shoulder back about 0.020 or so with your dies. A bushing type sizer will handle this chore. I use a Redding set up o mine. Brass is cheap just like for the Practical. The good thing is you have a bit longer neck and can get a bit more neck tension when you load it. Commercial brass is made by Lapua for $0.42 each. I would cry if I lost one. The 20 Practical is the last one. Velocities are the same. Brass is cheap. It can be loaded and made up with a set of 223 bushing dies and with those same dies you can load 20 Practical, 223 and 6X45. A good value for your $$'s. It is uber-simple to make the brass. Not as demanding like the 20 Tactical round. If you lose one you don't care. Brass life will be about the same on the 204, 20 PRAC and 20 TAC. I THINK using good LC brass that the 20 Practical would win this one as you are working it less than the 20 Tactical and the commercial 204 is not as heavy. That ought to give you some ideas. I can tell you that when BHW gets a 20 Practical reamer I would like to have the first one out of the lathe for my shooting pleasure. I have a BHW LH railed upper that is not going anywhere until it has a Practical barrel screwed on it. Greg |
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Post by ilive2h on Apr 10, 2012 8:58:33 GMT -8
So this was asked ells where but you guys do have the reamers for a 20 Tac right? and can you chamber with a 1-9 twist. AND if I do not plan to shoot the 55gr Bergers then should i go with a 1-9 or a 1-10?
Thanks again
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 10, 2012 9:37:52 GMT -8
So this was asked ells where but you guys do have the reamers for a 20 Tac right? and can you chamber with a 1-9 twist. AND if I do not plan to shoot the 55gr Bergers then should i go with a 1-9 or a 1-10? Thanks again I am not sure if they have got the 20 Practical , my choice, reamer in. My suggestion is go with a 1:9 if it is available but the 1:10 is what my 20 LBC is using. The 20's the guys are shooting are doing very well with their loads. I shot the 55's as a courtesy for a young man and found they would stabilize in my 20" tube at 3250 without any problem. In my 20's, all five of them, I shoot the Sierra 39's and 32's with excellent results. Greg |
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