Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Dec 10, 2014 8:45:24 GMT -8
I'm not talking about the blonde who jogs by every morning wearing a tank top and yoga pants. Case prep! What neck turners are you using and what might be the best bang for your buck--pun intended. Also, for those who have been reloading with and without turning their casings, what difference did it make once you started? I'd like to get into it, but don't want to spend extra cash on a neck turner that is more than what I need. I'm not a f class shooter, primarily do just precision rifle matches on steel.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Dec 10, 2014 15:45:31 GMT -8
I'm not talking about the blonde who jogs by every morning wearing a tank top and yoga pants. Case prep! What neck turners are you using and what might be the best bang for your buck--pun intended. Also, for those who have been reloading with and without turning their casings, what difference did it make once you started? I'd like to get into it, but don't want to spend extra cash on a neck turner that is more than what I need. I'm not a f class shooter, primarily do just precision rifle matches on steel. When I turn neks I use a Sinclair. I am using it mostly to fir some of or 20 caliber chambers. In the big boy guns cleaning them up is about it as these are relativey tight but not BR tight. Consistent neck tension is whare it will pay off. Starting with good brass helps. I've been doing some 500 yard F-Class and not turned. The rifle shoots well but I have not experimented much as it is an AR. I am moving on to 1000 with a Savage and will be trying it there at least as a clean up. Personally I would fore go the turning for most chambers. Also you will need bushing dies if you play that came to do i right. More $$'s Greg |
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Post by 45r on Dec 13, 2014 11:48:58 GMT -8
I use a forster neck turner and it works good and not very expensive. I use it mainly for fed 308 brass necked down for a 243win and some 223 brass needs to be turned for making 300blackout. I've turned some 7.62x39 brass to fire-form 65grendel/264LBC. |
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Post by dinosdeuce on Dec 30, 2014 9:17:08 GMT -8
I'm not talking about the blonde who jogs by every morning wearing a tank top and yoga pants. Case prep! What neck turners are you using and what might be the best bang for your buck--pun intended. Also, for those who have been reloading with and without turning their casings, what difference did it make once you started? I'd like to get into it, but don't want to spend extra cash on a neck turner that is more than what I need. I'm not a f class shooter, primarily do just precision rifle matches on steel. I too shoot matches, PRS matches. I tried turning necks on one batch of brass 2 years ago on a 260 bolt gun. In my opinion it was a total waste of time and money for me. I should have spent the money on more powder. I did not notice any improvement in accuracy for the time spent on the chore. In other words I could not shoot the difference. Maybe it is my loading techniques. I'm not saying don't do it, for me it wasn't worth it. There are many shooters out there who benefit from turning necks. My opinion, in the game I shoot, it's not worth it. Now if you need to turn necks because you are necking down brass that's different. By the way I used a K&M set up with carbide pilots. It's one of many and worked well for turning necks. Good luck! |
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Dec 30, 2014 20:44:05 GMT -8
I'm not talking about the blonde who jogs by every morning wearing a tank top and yoga pants. Case prep! What neck turners are you using and what might be the best bang for your buck--pun intended. Also, for those who have been reloading with and without turning their casings, what difference did it make once you started? I'd like to get into it, but don't want to spend extra cash on a neck turner that is more than what I need. I'm not a f class shooter, primarily do just precision rifle matches on steel. I too shoot matches, PRS matches. I tried turning necks on one batch of brass 2 years ago on a 260 bolt gun. In my opinion it was a total waste of time and money for me. I should have spent the money on more powder. I did not notice any improvement in accuracy for the time spent on the chore. In other words I could not shoot the difference. Maybe it is my loading techniques. I'm not saying don't do it, for me it wasn't worth it. There are many shooters out there who benefit from turning necks. My opinion, in the game I shoot, it's not worth it. Now if you need to turn necks because you are necking down brass that's different. By the way I used a K&M set up with carbide pilots. It's one of many and worked well for turning necks. Good luck! Yeah, I'm actually waiting on my manners stock to get in and once it does I'll shoot to see what kind of accuracy I can get w/o neck turning. If it's not where I want it, or I decide to try and squeeze a little bit more juice out of the rifle's capabilities, I may start off by borrowing a neck turner, running a batch of neck turned ammo, and assessing. What kind of accuracy were you getting out of your 260? |
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Post by dinosdeuce on Dec 31, 2014 15:55:17 GMT -8
the 260 was a bolt gun and 1/2 moa, but I wasn't pushing it. 142SMK at 2770 starting over 44.2 grs of H4350, at 2500 rds decreased seating depth by .007". Velocity was down to 2720 when it was pulled. I replaced it with a 6mm Creedmoor when it was just under 4000rds. It was the start of the season and didn't want to go to a match and have it go south.
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Dec 31, 2014 19:11:38 GMT -8
Good call on the swap! I've had gear go down, and it always happens at the most inopportune time. It's funny that you mention the 6mm Creed. I just started another thread a little bit ago asking if BHW is looking at offering 6Creed chamberings in their barrels. Sure would be a joy! *hint* *hint*
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Post by varminterror on Jan 22, 2015 10:35:47 GMT -8
I have an RCBS Trim Pro neck turner and a Forster Handheld turner. I end up using the Forster more often, and believe that I get more consistent results.
For factory chambers (i.e. not tight neck chambers), I have generally seen almost zero benefit to neck turning for most brass. I have a few cartridges that I neck down, so turning is somewhat required there, and I turn any of my precision shooting brass to better ensure consistent neck tension and bullet release, but in general, unless you're somewhere under 0.001" neck clearance in your chamber, I haven't seen much benefit for chamber support concentricity.
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Post by Old Desert Rat on May 28, 2015 10:42:52 GMT -8
My shooting buddy and I are both cheap SOBs, and found a good supply of cheap once-fired LC LR 308 cases that we're necking down for our 260 REMs. That re-forming is one really good reason for using a neck turner!
OBTW, we are designing our own neck turner - handheld, but it lets you set the axial stop on the shoulder, not the mouth. We figure with this design, the shoulder end of the turned surface will be much more repeatable and consistent.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 28, 2015 10:54:57 GMT -8
My shooting buddy and I are both cheap SOBs, and found a good supply of cheap once-fired LC LR 308 cases that we're necking down for our 260 REMs. That re-forming is one really good reason for using a neck turner! OBTW, we are designing our own neck turner - handheld, but it lets you set the axial stop on the shoulder, not the mouth. We figure with this design, the shoulder end of the turned surface will be much more repeatable and consistent. Nothing like innovation to make things better. Be sure and post up your turner when you are done. I can see the value in that if you find it more repeatable. Greg |
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