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Post by austex on May 27, 2015 13:48:27 GMT -8
Hi Greg,
Hope I'm in the right spot, 1st post! JP said you would be the one to know - I picked up a 18" grendel barrel and it shoots factory nicely. However, when I was able to get some more info, this barrel has been chambered in 6.5 LBC ar match. I'm wondering what would be the best dies set to use to do it right and what reloading specs to use either it Grendel or sbc264?? I usually don't start my projects in the right place, however, hope to make it different here...Thanks, Jeff
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 27, 2015 14:39:21 GMT -8
Hi Greg, Hope I'm in the right spot, 1st post! JP said you would be the one to know - I picked up a 18" grendel barrel and it shoots factory nicely. However, when I was able to get some more info, this barrel has been chambered in 6.5 LBC ar match. I'm wondering what would be the best dies set to use to do it right and what reloading specs to use either it Grendel or sbc264?? I usually don't start my projects in the right place, however, hope to make it different here...Thanks, Jeff Dies are the same. Basic differences between the two is the BHW 264 LBC chmaber neck is 0.005 smaller in diameter, 300 vs 295, and we use a 1 1/2 degree leade vs the combo 0.5 and 1.5 that the Grendel uses. Various arguments on those two changes. The tighter neck has known benefits and the throat angle is standard for 95% of the good shooting rifles in the world so it must work. We have never produced a Grendel barrel for public sale. That being said the ammunition is loaded with "Grendel" dies. I like the Redding Type S Bushing type. I don't use expander balls so I control all the neck tension with the bushing. This causes less neck stretching and more choices in how high you want the neck tension. Standard dies or bushings with expander balls give you one choice in tension and that does limit you. They tend to over grip the bullet in many cases...PUN The bushings also work the neck less for decreased work hardening and that is a god thing. Loading data for the Grendel and LBC are the same. Be sure and get a Sinclair tool to measure bullet distance to the lands and a Hornady Head Space Gauge to set up your dies. I also like the Comparator inserts so I can set my ogives dead nuts to the lands with a consistent jump. Any questions are welcome as everyone is here to have a god time and enjoy themselves safely. Greg PS: Welcome to the board!! |
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Post by austex on May 27, 2015 19:47:09 GMT -8
Thank you as that will certainly get me pointed the right way and I do need to get a Head space gauge. I would love to get some Redding s dies, I can almost buy a new barrel for what they are currently going for. I've got a set of hornady dies that I'll have to use currently. I'll be loading 123g horn/sst's for a while and maybe I'll figure a thumb and plumb method before I buy a sinclair/Hornady gauge. I appreciate your fast getback!
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 28, 2015 5:28:19 GMT -8
Thank you as that will certainly get me pointed the right way and I do need to get a Head space gauge. I would love to get some Redding s dies, I can almost buy a new barrel for what they are currently going for. I've got a set of hornady dies that I'll have to use currently. I'll be loading 123g horn/sst's for a while and maybe I'll figure a thumb and plumb method before I buy a sinclair/Hornady gauge. I appreciate your fast getback! The Hornady will work fine. Later if you want to experiment you can get the Redding die. You only need the sizer and they are about $55.00 separately. You can use the Hornady seater for that chore. That's what I use BTW on that one. No need for the fancy micrometer stuff on the Reddibg though I added it my Hornady seater. Money well spend there. The HS gauge can be made with a 9 MM case. I wrote it up somewhere. I'll look around.I have a series of pictures and will try and remember to dig them up and post them. The Sinclair measure for lands distance is a great investemnt. AS you get into it more it will save a huge amount of time. Not all bullets are created equal and just loading to 2.295 or so in many AR';s can be a bit more than problematical. The set up and teh AR adapter are only about $35.00 IIRC. Questions are good. Don't stop. Greg |
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