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F CLASS
May 30, 2011 13:21:58 GMT -8
Post by GLSHOOTER on May 30, 2011 13:21:58 GMT -8
I am tussling with the urge to try my hand at F-class matches. The ranges run 600 and 1000 yards so they are demanding on both the shooter and the equipment. I think it will dovetail nicely n my sniper matches as any targets shot that far out are an education for a shooter for later application to the problems in the other discipline.
One class is 223/308 and would be good for a bolt gun or auto in a fast twist 223 or a good 308 built around the Palma weight bullets. I don't own a 223 that fills the bill and my 308's are M1A's and a 600 Remington. Not what you want to take to the line against a Savage F Class or a McMillan.
The other class is up to 35 caliber and run what you brung. I've got a 243 Varmint that would get me in the door on this one but I have the urge for something like a 260 for competing but the 243 has been doing well from what I can find out.
Interestingly no muzzle breaks are allowed and one lets you use a bipod and the other will let you use a pedestal/front rest.
Anyone out there doing this? I may well get my feet wet with my 700 and then when the BHW guns are available campaign one of them. Perhaps that new upper coming out will be my ticket to some Gold?
No better way to fly the colors than to collect those little pieces of medal with a new gun and cause some excitement. Lets here it guys, I'm not the only guy on here that goes out on a Sunday and punches paper/steel.
Greg
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F CLASS
May 31, 2011 6:30:47 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 6:30:47 GMT -8
Greg,
The .243 LBC WILL do what your after. We are waiting for the 1 in 9 twist barrels. They should stabilize a 105 Amax. According to the numbers I have run, the 105 stays supersonic past 1200. This is just behind the 6mm Br in velocity and wind deflection.
The track record of the 6 mm Br speaks for its self. It still to this day holds world records in several category's at 600 to 1000 yards. Knowing how close the 243 LBC is to the 6mm BR ballisticly, the choice is an easy one.The choice to run an AR platform in F-Class is the tough call. With the .243 LBC you will have accuracy, low recoil and more than enough range to do the job. All in an AR 15 platform rifle.
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F CLASS
May 31, 2011 9:55:18 GMT -8
Post by GLSHOOTER on May 31, 2011 9:55:18 GMT -8
An interesting point. I had not considered the 243 LBC. I guess I'll have to set down and give it a close inspection. Supersonic speeds at termination is so important and if it will get it done with less powder than a 243 Winchester then the recoil will be reduced and still would allow for great performance. It would also provide the crossover to the sniper match arena.
Lots of options and BWH is certainly going to have many of them available. Somehow I just see a big platform AR in the future for me.
Greg
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F CLASS
Dec 21, 2011 0:27:15 GMT -8
Post by nonnieselman on Dec 21, 2011 0:27:15 GMT -8
New guy here.
Ive shot quite a few F-Class now and its addicting.
My first match i shot in i used my deer rifle. R700 SPS .270, nothing special by any means. It had the little sporter barrel and a factory synthetic stock. Adjusted the trigger and started load hunting. Settled on 59.5gr h4831/ 140gr berger / win brass / CCI BR. 3 cold bore shots at 600yds would do 3.6" just bout every time. Even got 3 cold bores 8.5" at 1k on 2 seperate days.
It was a shooter, but heat that barrel up and it went from 3.6" to 12" at 600yds. Still fun!
Ended up building a 300WM in a savage. 1.5-2"'groups were the norm at 600yds with 210gr bergers, so that made it even funner! After taking several deer at over 700yds i decided to save it and use it for a deer rifle.
Next i rebarreld my old 22-250 and got it down to sub moa at 600 and been using it as a match/ varmint rifle.
Then got a sweet deal on a R700 AAC-SD 308 so i shot it in matchs a few times. But wanted something different than the normal R700 \ Savage bolt guns everybody was using.
Now im on the quest for a .223 match rifle for F-Class. Thats why im here now. Ive been eyeing the BHW 5.56 24" bull. I already built a 6.8spc with BHW barrel that shoots amazing. Just cant find any reviews of a 24" BHW barrel.
Not that im skepital but just wanted to see results.
I start my new job Jan 2nd and money has been tight this year so im holding off till i can stock up some play money.
Guess ill order it and do a review since i havent found one online, been searching for a month since i got plenty of research time.
Sorry for the novel.
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F CLASS
Dec 21, 2011 10:12:49 GMT -8
Post by GLSHOOTER on Dec 21, 2011 10:12:49 GMT -8
Thanks for the novel. I like being able to read about the progression in a shooters equipment and mind set. Going from the big 300 to the 223 is quite a change. I have this gut level feeling that your shoulder will be a lot happier at the end of the day and your pocket book won't be quite as light!!
My 6X45 obviously will be in the more match rifle class but if it works out I know there is a 24" BHW in the future for me for the short range and a 243 LBC for the long range 1000 stuff.
Greg
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F CLASS
Dec 21, 2011 21:07:19 GMT -8
Post by nonnieselman on Dec 21, 2011 21:07:19 GMT -8
Yea your not kidding. But it was only costing me .60 per round for the 300wm. The 223 should be around .30. The 300 is kinda heavy and with the suppressor it was fun to shoot. Felt like a bolt .243. The 270 hurt more than it did. Made some extra money today hauling scrap metal so ordering my barrel tom  |
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F CLASS
Dec 23, 2011 16:57:35 GMT -8
Post by GLSHOOTER on Dec 23, 2011 16:57:35 GMT -8
Yea your not kidding. But it was only costing me .60 per round for the 300wm. The 223 should be around .30. The 300 is kinda heavy and with the suppressor it was fun to shoot. Felt like a bolt .243. The 270 hurt more than it did. Made some extra money today hauling scrap metal so ordering my barrel tom Well.... Did you?   Greg |
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F CLASS
Jan 4, 2012 19:09:39 GMT -8
Post by 78maverick on Jan 4, 2012 19:09:39 GMT -8
New guy here. Now im on the quest for a .223 match rifle for F-Class. Thats why im here now. Ive been eyeing the BHW 5.56 24" bull. I already built a 6.8spc with BHW barrel that shoots amazing. Just cant find any reviews of a 24" BHW barrel. Not that im skepital but just wanted to see results. I start my new job Jan 2nd and money has been tight this year so im holding off till i can stock up some play money. If you haven't done so, check out the forum over at 6mmbr aka Accurate Shooter. There is a fellow from England named Laurie that shoots .223 in F/TR - worth reading about his experiences. Lots of good info on that forum. John |
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Jan 5, 2012 9:11:44 GMT -8
They just announced a 223 AR15 F-Class!! Bullets must be mag fed, no single loading. I believe it said nothing heavier than a 77 grain pill. Longest range will be 600 yards.
Greg
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F CLASS
Jan 5, 2012 10:02:58 GMT -8
Post by 78maverick on Jan 5, 2012 10:02:58 GMT -8
They just announced a 223 AR15 F-Class!! Bullets must be mag fed, no single loading. I believe it said nothing heavier than a 77 grain pill. Longest range will be 600 yards. Greg Any limits on barrel length, overall weight, etc? Link to new rules? John |
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F CLASS
Jan 5, 2012 11:53:00 GMT -8
Post by GLSHOOTER on Jan 5, 2012 11:53:00 GMT -8
They just announced a 223 AR15 F-Class!! Bullets must be mag fed, no single loading. I believe it said nothing heavier than a 77 grain pill. Longest range will be 600 yards. Greg Any limits on barrel length, overall weight, etc? Link to new rules? John The best I can do on short order. You might pursue the Governing Body organization site, that I do not know BTW. www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/01/03/f-class-for-ar-shooters-f-ar15/Greg |
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F CLASS
Feb 29, 2012 18:28:17 GMT -8
Post by rwf on Feb 29, 2012 18:28:17 GMT -8
a new guy to this forum,
i have shot the F-class with 5,56 Black Hills OTM with a 20" barrel at 600 and 1000. it is also not legal to use a suppresser but at a club match they would let me. just to see if i could still do it. shoot at 1k that is.
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F CLASS
Mar 1, 2012 13:37:47 GMT -8
Post by GLSHOOTER on Mar 1, 2012 13:37:47 GMT -8
a new guy to this forum, i have shot the F-class with 5,56 Black Hills OTM with a 20" barrel at 600 and 1000. it is also not legal to use a suppresser but at a club match they would let me. just to see if i could still do it. shoot at 1k that is. That sounds great. I wouldn't use a suppressor even if I had one. Why bother to wear on the receiver and a rifle match is loud anyway!! They don't allow muzzle breaks on any of the classes because of the sound diversion. At one shot a minute muzzle rise will be the least of my worries in this new arena. Greg |
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Post by rwf on Mar 2, 2012 9:20:54 GMT -8
still have not figured out, how to quote, but i used a suppressor because it does tighten up the groups. i have never heard of extra wear on the receiver but do understand why that could be said. and in the case of the F- class upper, to keep it locked up as long as possible the gas system was all but closed with the tubbs extra power spring and extra weight of the operating system there was, i would think less stress on the receiver than a carbine gas system with the Same ammo. it was also a true side charger with charging handle or a place for one. but really just saying how i set-up mine. also just a note if you do show up at 1k match with a 20" 223/5.56 using store bought ammo be really for the looks of horror from the other shooters and them saying more or less it can not be done safely, till you prove yourself. i will try to get W to post a picutre or 2. |
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Post by rwf on Mar 2, 2012 9:25:37 GMT -8
forgot the time limited also include the sighters, so if you have trouble making the weather adjustments or a mistake on your dope. you maybe trying to do a few shots a minute.
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