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Post by motoman006 on Aug 14, 2016 18:14:49 GMT -8
Thinkin about building a 6.5 creedmoor on a extra Remington 700 action I have
How's the accuracy on these barrels? Any real world experience would be great, would like to achieve half moa accuracy out to 600 yards
What can I expect? Any real world experience remage or savage barrels from black hole?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 2:59:19 GMT -8
Thinkin about building a 6.5 creedmoor on a extra Remington 700 action I have How's the accuracy on these barrels? Any real world experience would be great, would like to achieve half moa accuracy out to 600 yards What can I expect? Any real world experience remage or savage barrels from black hole? I have done 3 of them and they all shot under 1/2 MOA. All where on Savage actions. If you plan on using a Remington action spend the money and have it squared up. 1/2 MOA is going to be tough on a box stock Remington action with any barrel, regardless who made it. If they had a floating bolt like a Savage, it would make things a lot easier. |
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Post by motoman006 on Aug 15, 2016 6:23:36 GMT -8
Thinkin about building a 6.5 creedmoor on a extra Remington 700 action I have How's the accuracy on these barrels? Any real world experience would be great, would like to achieve half moa accuracy out to 600 yards What can I expect? Any real world experience remage or savage barrels from black hole? I have done 3 of them and they all shot under 1/2 MOA. All where on Savage actions. If you plan on using a Remington action spend the money and have it squared up. 1/2 MOA is going to be tough on a box stock Remington action with any barrel, regardless who made it. If they had a floating bolt like a Savage, it would make things a lot easier. Thanks for the response! As of now the action is not trued but I have a criterion 6.5x47 lapua barrel on it and it shoots 2" at 400yards so it's a half moa shooter, some days shoots better some worse This is what I'm looking for as far as accuracy, but this barrel and stock are way to heavy for hunting so I'm switching out barrel and stock to turn into a hunting rifle |
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Post by onthedivide on May 3, 2018 19:06:11 GMT -8
I know this is an old thread but I'm interested in the remage system. With a trued action the machinest usually chases the threads but for a remage system you want to leave the threads alone. Is that right? How accurate are these systems. Is there something about the savage actions that makes them a more accurate system? Are the savage actions more accurate then Remington out of the box?
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 5, 2018 6:55:50 GMT -8
I know this is an old thread but I'm interested in the remage system. With a trued action the machinest usually chases the threads but for a remage system you want to leave the threads alone. Is that right? How accurate are these systems. Is there something about the savage actions that makes them a more accurate system? Are the savage actions more accurate then Remington out of the box? No reason you can't chase the threads on the REMAGE but I think if you want to getthe most out of them you should blue print it. Accuracy reports have been slim for what ever reason.. I've shot one on a BAT action but that's kind of cheating. The SAVAGE is far superior. The floating bolt head eliminates the need for squaring of the action plus you can swap out bolt heads. A case head change on a Remington is a one way street and very expensive if you want to buy extra bolts. I have a 25-06 that I have set up for 223 in the past with only an adjustment in the firing pin. Accuracy on mine are outstanding. I have groups that would put a smile on a dead mans face. Plus of course Savage barrels are all over the place vs the Remingtons. Greg |
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Post by onthedivide on May 5, 2018 14:02:47 GMT -8
Thanks Greg,
I'm going to look for a left hand savage rifle I can use as a doner. Which model do you prefer that is available in left hand?
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 5, 2018 14:55:52 GMT -8
Thanks Greg, I'm going to look for a left hand savage rifle I can use as a doner. Which model do you prefer that is available in left hand? I don't know anything about LH Savage guns. I normally prefer box magazines, non-detachable, and varmint weight originals. I'll be looking to do a 20 Practical soon but I think I'll go to a medium weight barrel on it. I only own one LH bolt and two LH AR's. The bolt is a full custom 358 Norma Mag on a 700. The AR's are 20 Parc and 6X45. Greg |
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Post by onthedivide on May 5, 2018 21:07:54 GMT -8
My mistake. I thought you were a left handed shooter. After shooting right handed guns all my life I bought a rifle from GAP. Left handed defiance machine action, bartlein barrel, manners stock. Wow, what a difference it is to have a left handed rifle. It's so great to shoot the way right handed shooters have always done. I just want to continue that with the guns I buy or build in the future.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 5, 2018 21:32:05 GMT -8
My mistake. I thought you were a left handed shooter. After shooting right handed guns all my life I bought a rifle from GAP. Left handed defiance machine action, bartlein barrel, manners stock. Wow, whakt a difference it is to have a left handed rifle. It's so great to shoot the way right handed shooters have always done. I just want to continue that with the guns I buy or build in the future. I am a left handed long gun shooter but I can shoot a right handed bolt gun far faster. I don't use slings for any of my shooting when using bolts. Mostly off a bipod in my PD shooting and ss a M/O instructor and SORT/SWAT team work. AR's don't matter. .lol. My lefty ARs are the railed uppers that BHW did years ago. I have taught using lefty bolts in my classes but prefer righty. Greg |
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Post by onthedivide on May 5, 2018 21:49:41 GMT -8
I understand that. It's not a big difference when shooting supported. Off a bipod or bag. I've spent most of my time in the field. The shots are off hand, maybe sling supported, or using something handy for support like a tree or whatever is available. Different kinds of applications of shooting techniques. I think most shooters these days are shooting on ranges or in competitions at ranges. I've spent lots of time operating right bolt guns. It's really tough in the woods to have to do that.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 6, 2018 7:47:55 GMT -8
I suppose another issue is resale. A LH AR is not very popular or in demand and for me they really are a waste of money to build. BCG parts are scarce. I've helped several guys out building them but STAG is virtually the only big name source and they aren't marketing any.
I've shot a bit in the field with my bolt guns. As long as I can get in a non standing position it's all good and if I'm using a rest of some kind, I love fence posts for that, I am a happy camper. My hind legs shooting is not as fast but what I hunt normally isn't around for a second shot.
Greg
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Post by onthedivide on May 6, 2018 13:49:48 GMT -8
"Not around for a second shot". Yes, and that's the right way to hunt. I've basically used my right bolt guns as single shot in the field. Deer goes down I lower the rifle and cycle the action just in case I need a second shot. Even elk will drop from the hydrostatic force as long as there's enough energy in the bullet. One shot.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on May 6, 2018 14:03:41 GMT -8
"Not around for a second shot". Yes, and that's the right way to hunt. I've basically used my right bolt guns as single shot in the field. Deer goes down I lower the rifle and cycle the action just in case I need a second shot. Even elk will drop from the hydrostatic force as long as there's enough energy in the bullet. One shot. Really the only issue I've had was when my spotter was feeding the rounds into the rifle as he has to set to my right and it does crowd things in a fluid target rich environment. I don't have those out on the PD fields..LOL We're too busy shooting against each other. Greg |
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