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Post by ineedone on Apr 2, 2018 17:48:55 GMT -8
I'm thinking about ordering a BHW bull barrel in 308. Probably going to go with the 24 inch length. What kind of accuracy can I expect to see out of it using match ammo.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 3, 2018 16:52:55 GMT -8
Sub-MOA would be what I'd expect. Some do better than others. There have been a lot of reports on the Creeds doing that too.
If you want the best out of any of these the reloading bench comes into play. I shot a bolt 308 barrel with match stuff. Take a look at those groups in comparison and the single hand load I threw together.
Greg
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Post by ineedone on Apr 4, 2018 15:23:17 GMT -8
I was hoping someone would reply with sub moa. You can always get hand loads to shoot better, but I would like to start with a barrel that is capable of sub moa with factory match ammo.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 4, 2018 16:29:38 GMT -8
I was hoping someone would reply with sub moa. You can always get hand loads to shoot better, but I would like to start with a barrel that is capable of sub moa with factory match ammo. 308's are pretty forgiving across the board. I personally don't like the 10 platform but like Quigley I can use one. Greg |
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Post by ineedone on Apr 14, 2018 10:02:03 GMT -8
How much does fluting, if any, affect the harmonics and accuracy of the barrel. Has anyone shot a fluted barrel side by side with a non fluted barrel. The argument of fluting creating hot spots in the barrel makes since to me. Especially on a stainless barrel, since stainless has a tendency to warp with heat. The thinner the metal the less heat it will take for it to expand or warp i.e. the area fluted. As a tig welder that works with stainless daily I see this often. However how many rounds through the barrel in a row does it take to start noticing this affect if any. Also are the BHW barrels stressed relieved after fluting. I'm not the kind of guy that's going to do a magazine dump through it, but I would be shooting several rounds at steel in an afternoon.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 14, 2018 12:04:57 GMT -8
I shoot both at reasonable rates of fire. I've not noticed any real issues. Barrel to barrel variations might cover the spread between the two to start with.
As to stress relief you'd have to contact them as I have no idea when it's done. I know that how it's fluted as to material feed speed, temperature of the metal and depth of cuts come into play on stress. Straight flutes are more forgiving than the honey comb type.
Me? I don't flute many but I will do some.
Greg
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Post by ineedone on Apr 16, 2018 17:51:38 GMT -8
Why do you flute some and not others. Just weight savings on certain builds? Or is there a more in depth reason?
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 16, 2018 17:59:39 GMT -8
Why do you flute some and not others. Just weight savings on certain builds? Or is there a more in depth reason? Me? One for pure weight. One for looks and a couple on a whim. I won't flute one that I want supreme accuracy down range. Geeg |
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Post by ineedone on Apr 17, 2018 16:45:16 GMT -8
Why do you flute some and not others. Just weight savings on certain builds? Or is there a more in depth reason? Me? One for pure weight. One for looks and a couple on a whim. I won't flute one that I want supreme accuracy down range. Geeg Ok that's exactly what I was wanting to know. |
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Post by ineedone on Apr 17, 2018 17:07:44 GMT -8
Greg, you have been a big help. Thank you for the replies. I think I have made my mind up on a BHW barrel. 24 inch bull with no fluting and a 1-11 twist. I will probably have it cerakote black to go with the riffle.
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 17, 2018 17:40:06 GMT -8
That sounds great. Make sure you post up some pics once it's finished.
Greg
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Post by ineedone on Apr 18, 2018 16:16:16 GMT -8
That sounds great. Make sure you post up some pics once it's finished. Greg If I can figure out how, I will |
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Post by GLSHOOTER on Apr 18, 2018 16:19:53 GMT -8
Set up an IMGUR.com account. Follow their directions to upload. Pull down the share tab, click the BB link lower left and paste it here.
Greg
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Post by gaston9x19 on Apr 18, 2018 19:49:08 GMT -8
I wouldn't order fluting from BHW/Columbia River Arms again. They don't take much metal out at all, and charge quite a bit for the work. I've done their straight fluting, smiley fluting, and progressive helical twist, and while the twisted ones look great, you don't get very much weight savings. Not enough to justify the cost in my opinion. It's all just aesthetic from BHW. Satern, Green Mountain Rifle Co, and Ballistic Advantage, on the other hand, offer fluted barrels with TREMENDOUS weight savings, because they actually deep flute the barrel, removing quite a bit of metal while still retaining the stiffness of the the original diameter with what's left. Just my two cents. I love BHW barrels, but wish they actually cut deeper flutes to make it worth the extra price. I just go with "light profile" barrels from them now.
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Post by gaston9x19 on Apr 18, 2018 19:51:49 GMT -8
 BHW straight-fluted 16" .264 LBC barrel. Grooves are not very deep.  Satern Liberty 20" 6.5 Grendel barrel with much deeper fluting. |
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